08-21-2010, 07:01 PM | #1 |
The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠
Posts: 73,056
Karma: 313063788
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Norfolk, England
Device: Kindle Oasis
|
Do you read and understand every word?
I've been spending some time recently preparing editions of Kidnapped and Catriona by Robert Louis Stevenson.
I've finished the tedious but necessary task of cleaning up the text, getting as close to what it should be as I can, given the number of minor variations that there are in the text in different editions. I'm not going through the text, adding in extra glossary entries for Scots and other unusual words. I had thought I knew the text of the books quite well, but I've been surprised at how many words I've just glided over in the past, getting some vague notion of their meaning from context, but not really knowing them at all. Mostly my lack of knowledge is unimportant to the story, but sometimes, knowing the meaning, or the exact meaning, does make a significant difference. Some examples - did you know that in the mid 1700s a ‘capuchin’ was a short cloak worn by ladies, that didn't reach below the elbows? Or that a ‘negligee’ was a long evening dress with trailing folds? Or that your oxters are your arm-pits? I didn't. I wonder how many of you are like me, and blithly pass over unfamiliar words in a story, guessing their meaning from context as you go? And I wonder how many of you actually go and look such words up when they come across them? |
08-21-2010, 07:41 PM | #2 |
Maratus speciosus butt
Posts: 3,292
Karma: 1162698
Join Date: Sep 2009
Device: PRS-350
|
|
Advert | |
|
08-21-2010, 07:46 PM | #3 |
Addict
Posts: 378
Karma: 1107420
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Western New York state (USA)
Device: Kindle Oasis & the Kindle app on iDevices
|
I have to admit, I am bad at skipping over words if I don't know their exact meaning.
However, I have stopped reading to go look up a word. The one I remember most (because I love the word and subsequent phrasing) was when I came across the phrase "black serendipity" in Stephen King's novella Apt Pupil. According to Wikipedia, serendipity means "a propensity for making fortunate discoveries while looking for something unrelated." Having King tie the word black to the word serendipity was, to me, awesome phrasing - with just two words. You'd have to have read the book to get it - but that phrase still impresses me. It is (was?) so apropos to what was happening in that story. But that doesn't happen often (stopping to look up a word). I do skip words - and sometimes don't realize that I have, actually. I guess because usually the word is hidden so well within the story (and you can glean the meaning from the context), that it doesn't stick out. Huh. Now I'll have to remember to try to pay more attention... Marilyn |
08-21-2010, 07:46 PM | #4 |
Hi There!
Posts: 7,473
Karma: 2930523
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Device: iPad
|
Gloss. Cherry flavored gloss. If I can work it out from the context, I'm satisfied.
|
08-21-2010, 08:33 PM | #5 |
↓↓ Skirt!! Earrings!!
Posts: 3,394
Karma: 17432172
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Georgia, USA
Device: Acer netbook, JetBook Lite, Sony PRS-300, Kindle 2, Kindle Fire
|
I've always kind of just taken the word within the context of the story and assumed I knew what it meant. I never pick up a dictionary to look up a word. Since I got a kindle, though, I've had a lot of fun looking up those odd words. It makes it really easy, and I've improved my vocabulary a bit. :-)
|
Advert | |
|
08-21-2010, 08:46 PM | #6 |
Argos win Grey Cup!
Posts: 7,648
Karma: 31487351
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Raleigh, NC
Device: Paperwhite, Kindles 10 & 4 and jetBook Lite
|
My jetBook Lite came with a dictionary, and every time I came across a word that I wasn't sure of the meaning, which was often, I would look it up. Unfortunately, the JBL's dictionary had only 10% of the words. The dictionary might be helpful for someone learning the English language but not for a native speaker.
Ironically, the books that I am referring to were ones that came free with the device. That's right, they included for free a dictionary which did not have the words of the books they included for free! |
08-21-2010, 08:47 PM | #7 |
Bah! Humbug!
Posts: 61,924
Karma: 135181808
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Durham, NC
Device: Every Kindle Ever Made & To Be Made!
|
I too have been stopping and reading definitions more now - since the Kindle's dictionary on the bottom of the page makes it so easy. Before, I'm afraid I used to glide on, guessing from the context.
|
08-21-2010, 09:33 PM | #8 |
Hi There!
Posts: 7,473
Karma: 2930523
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Device: iPad
|
Oh ys, I forgot. The dict on the kindle for iPad is cute. I do catch myself looking up words just to play with it.
|
08-22-2010, 02:01 AM | #9 |
Addict
Posts: 206
Karma: 7270
Join Date: Aug 2009
Device: K3 wifi
|
I am bad at looking up words. I am not a native English speaker but I am too lazy to look up word when I am reading. Like Betty, I kind of skip the word and assume from the context. If I still don't get it I just reread it. Probably take less time to look up than reread. haha
|
08-22-2010, 02:39 AM | #10 |
Banned
Posts: 3,724
Karma: 535488
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: the Mortuary
Device: Kindle 2
|
I have always had a dictionary and thesaurus on hand while reading, in case I come across an unfamiliar word.
I have found, however, that I need them less now. Thanks in part to the lowered standard of popular literature. |
08-22-2010, 03:06 AM | #11 |
It's about the umbrella
Posts: 25,110
Karma: 56250158
Join Date: Jan 2009
Device: Sony 505| K Fire | KK 3G+Wi-Fi | iPhone 3Gs |Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF
|
I try to always look up a word when reading, although it use to take me a while to figure out a word from the definition. I sometimes still spend a lot of time looking up the words in the definition.
Even though, I could guess a word meaning from the context, now what I do is stop and go look up the words on the internet, as it will pronounce most words also. |
08-22-2010, 03:12 AM | #12 | |
You kids get off my lawn!
Posts: 4,220
Karma: 73492664
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of
|
Quote:
|
|
08-22-2010, 03:33 AM | #13 |
Is that a sandwich?
Posts: 8,241
Karma: 101696762
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Nook Glowlight Plus
|
I've looked-up words the author invented. So gullible am I.
I just had to dig out a dictionary for a book I recently read. There were too many words I was skipping over. simoon sinecure commissaire |
08-22-2010, 03:40 AM | #14 |
It's Dr. Penguin now!
Posts: 3,909
Karma: 4705733
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: (USA)
Device: iPad mini, Samsung Note 3, Sony PRS-650 (rarely used now)
|
I have a decent vocabulary, and donʻt often run across words I donʻt know (but Iʻm also usually reading topics in which I have a degree of understanding, and my fiction is not overtly literary, as a whole). As a result, if I have a dictionary conveniently available, Iʻll do as I expect my students to do: hypothesize the meaning of the word from context, then verify (or disprove) my hypothesis by looking up the word. If a dictionary is not readily available, I will generally save the verification step for later....
|
08-22-2010, 06:08 AM | #15 |
Wizard
Posts: 1,952
Karma: 213930
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Middelfart, Denmark
Device: Kindle paper white
|
English is my second language, and any word I don't understand I look up... If there's no translation, I use my own according to the text.
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Does Kindle DX read Word files? | rajendra8 | Amazon Kindle | 1 | 03-17-2010 05:19 AM |
Not able to read Word .doc files | Tamo | iRex | 4 | 11-13-2009 11:33 AM |
Microsoft Reader plugin "Read in" for Word doesn't load anymore | K-Thom | Reading and Management | 15 | 04-17-2009 06:52 AM |
Romance Ebers, Georg: A Word, Only a Word. V1. 20 Mar 2009 | crutledge | ePub Books | 0 | 03-20-2009 09:09 AM |
convert word doc to read on Sony reader | stustaff | Sony Reader | 7 | 02-21-2008 12:55 PM |