Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-24-2010, 12:01 PM   #1
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,375
Karma: 23555235
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
Liquavista Announces Dev Kits for New Screens

cross posted from The Digital Reader

From the press release:

Liquavista today announced the launch of System Development Kits aimed at enabling their core customers to work on developing products based on their innovative electrowetting display technology. Available for both LiquavistaBright 6” mono and LiquavistaColor 6” color electrowetting displays, customers will be able to create applications and therefore products that benefit from the features of Liquavista’s unique display technology.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2010, 12:54 PM   #2
Greg Anos
Grand Sorcerer
Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Greg Anos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 11,308
Karma: 35112572
Join Date: Jan 2008
Device: Pocketbook
Very good news indeed. It implies that at least sample quantities of the color screen are being produced.

The long term future of e-book reading will be based on screens like Liquavista and/or Mirasol. Extremely low power use (or bistable) screens with fast refresh rates will make the ideal tablet pc/internet browser/e-book reader/Media player/portable game player. That's why I think the Apple Ipad, as it is currently constructed, is not going to be as successful as it could be, due to LCD screen energy requirements....
Greg Anos is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 03-25-2010, 05:15 PM   #3
Ride
Junior Member
Ride began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 7
Karma: 10
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: iRex DR1000S
What about the Pixel Qi screen, the 3Qi? It is being produced in production quantities for products to be released this year. Not only that, it is both colour and grey scale.

What I haven't seen is a comparison of the Liquavista and Pixel Qi technologies. Both are using a variant of LCD technology but I'd like to know the pros and cons of each when compared to each other. Which would give longer battery? The Liquavista or the 3Qi with backlight off? Which technology has higher resolution? Fastest refresh? And so on.

I've not been able to find such a comparison. Anyone else had any luck?

Ride
Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2010, 05:18 PM   #4
ardeegee
Maratus speciosus butt
ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ardeegee ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
ardeegee's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,292
Karma: 1162698
Join Date: Sep 2009
Device: PRS-350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ride View Post
What I haven't seen is a comparison of the Liquavista and Pixel Qi technologies. Both are using a variant of LCD technology
Liquavision is not a variant of LCD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrowetting
ardeegee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2010, 03:19 AM   #5
A4-
Connoisseur
A4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheeseA4- can extract oil from cheese
 
A4-'s Avatar
 
Posts: 84
Karma: 1110
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Netherlands
Device: iRex iLiad v2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ride View Post
What I haven't seen is a comparison of the Liquavista and Pixel Qi technologies. Both are using a variant of LCD technology but I'd like to know the pros and cons of each when compared to each other. Which would give longer battery? The Liquavista or the 3Qi with backlight off? Which technology has higher resolution? Fastest refresh? And so on.

I've not been able to find such a comparison. Anyone else had any luck?
As far as I know, battery-life wont differ much (what I've heard is that they use less power then E-ink), at least not so much as being noteworthy, you still need to recharge em once in a while. An economic CPU will make a bigger difference imo.

LCD has a pixel-density of ~100 ppi.
E-ink has a pixel-density of 142-200 ppi depending on screen-size.
Pixel Qi has a pixel-density which is ~120 ppi color, 200 ppi grayscale.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wallcraft View Post
~200 ppi monocrome (I have also heard 205 ppi) ~120 ppi full color
The Mirasol prototype had a pixel-density of 240 ppi (which will be the first- to-the-market screen @ 5.7" according to engadget).
Liquavista has a pixel-density of 160 ppi (according to Liquavista.com)

Pixel Qi, Mirasol and Liquavista can all be used to display video, so for reading, browsing and navigating menu's the refresh rate is high enough. I wont be playing first-person-shooters on them, so refresh rate isn't that important to me.

'And so on' could be color quality or price? which I don't know (yet).

Ow, I've seen some numbers about the reflectivity:
Quote:
Originally Posted by LDBoblo View Post
I don't think any reflective technology gives close to "true" white. EWD like Liquavista expects to get above 50% white reflectance (some claims state 60%), EPD like E-Ink stands around 40% (SiPix's flexible-backed MicroCup stuff mentioned 33% reflectance). Some technologies like electrofluidic and electrochromic are [at least theoretically] capable of above 80% (pretty white). For what it's worth, Mirasol's white papers suggest they are capable of around 50% white reflectance, compared to 60% for the Wall Street Journal (print version, obviously). Bear in mind that white reflectance can be measured in different ways, so the numbers are not always completely comparable.

White reflectance will certainly improve overall readability in diverse light conditions, but black reflectance is also important to consider. Without a solid black state, even good white reflectance will look washed out.
Something else I've read recently is that Current LCD-factory's can be used to produce Liquavista screens with only minor changes to the production process.

Last edited by A4-; 03-26-2010 at 03:22 AM.
A4- is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 03-26-2010, 09:48 AM   #6
raac
Zealot
raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.raac ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 111
Karma: 1003802
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NY
Device: Sony PRS-950
Larger LCD screens have ~100 dpi. Smaller screens, such as mobile phones and some laptops, have substantially higher resolutions. The iPhone, for instance, has a screen which is 160 dpi. Presumably this is how Liquavista achieve their dpi of 160, since they use the same manufacturing process as common LCD displays.

It is worth noting that how smooth text looks does not depend only on the dpi but also on how you anti-alias and display it. LCDs have many more more shades of gray to play with than does a current generation e-ink display (which are usually 8 or 16 shades, I believe) so will produce smoothing-looking text for a given dpi.

I was thinking of buying an Adam until I saw the Liquavista demo. Now I'm going to wait a while. Why bother switching between B&W and colour when there'll be displays that can produce paper-like colour without draining the battery?
raac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
iPhone Digitimes: Asia Optical shipping 3 million lens kits for iPhone 4 per month kjk Apple Devices 0 06-11-2010 04:47 PM
Pixel Qi replacement display kits coming soon Dulin's Books News 5 03-08-2010 06:05 PM
Liquavista developer kits coming... LDBoblo News 0 02-22-2010 06:42 AM
Liquavista: Threat to E-Ink? anurag News 38 01-17-2010 07:26 PM
LIQUAVISTA:The first products to use Liquavista displays will be the next generation Jason News 9 05-30-2009 06:25 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:54 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.