Remote Page Turner Prototype

cosine · 06-16-2020, 12:08 AM

I've been looking for a way to remotely turn the pages on my Kindle. I saw KindleLazy, but unfortunately it looks like the newer Kindles have been locked down pretty tight.

I've been working on a hardware remote page turner that would work for any touch screen e-reader. This prototype is on a breadboard, but it will be packaged into something nicer for real usage.

Right now, I'm controlling it using an iPhone. It could potentially be extended to work with Android and other remotes.

Here's a video showing the core functionality: https://youtu.be/bNfeJDhpqjg

Is there any interest in this? What do you guys think?

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coplate · 06-16-2020, 09:24 PM

I fricking love it. What kind of wires do you have taped to the screen?
It could be built into a paperwhite case, or a oasis sleeve of some wor, and just live in the very corners.

does it just apply 3v or how does it actually trigger the "touch"?

idab · 06-16-2020, 09:50 PM

What's the point? You need to be close enough to read it anyway. This seems like a waste of time.

cosine · 06-17-2020, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coplate

I fricking love it. What kind of wires do you have taped to the screen?
It could be built into a paperwhite case, or a oasis sleeve of some wor, and just live in the very corners.

does it just apply 3v or how does it actually trigger the "touch"?

Thanks. Glad to see some people like the functionality. Building it into a case is a neat idea. Right now, the device is on a clip so it can attach to various different readers and even cell phones.

Here's a picture of it being tested on a phone:

Those are normal wires connected to a conductive pad made of tin foil. It works by grounding the screen whenever a page turn is triggered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by idab

What's the point? You need to be close enough to read it anyway. This seems like a waste of time.

It's for user comfort when you don't want to touch the screen to turn the page. For example, if you have it mounted somewhere and don't want to lift your hand up every time to turn the page.

badgoodDeb · 06-17-2020, 06:02 PM

Yes, I could certainly see uses for this! I'm following the thread.

coplate · 06-18-2020, 07:32 PM

When I was doing my jailbreak version of this, my idea was to use it on a treadmill. Since Lifting my arms and swiping or tapping every N seconds was uncomfortable, but just holding a clicker in my hand sounded like it would be much more comfortable.

idab · 06-19-2020, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coplate

When I was doing my jailbreak version of this, my idea was to use it on a treadmill. Since Lifting my arms and swiping or tapping every N seconds was uncomfortable, but just holding a clicker in my hand sounded like it would be much more comfortable.

Okay this seems like a legit reason. The dude laying in bed not wanting to lift his hands seemed like something out of Black Mirror.

badgoodDeb · 06-19-2020, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by idab

Okay this seems like a legit reason. The dude laying in bed not wanting to lift his hands seemed like something out of Black Mirror.

You've never heard of sickbeds?

idab · 06-20-2020, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

You've never heard of sickbeds?

You can already buy remote controlled momentary switch buttons for $10.99 (with remote) on Amazon.

These would replace the page turn buttons on an Oasis without issue.

OP is just being silly

Kindlefanboy · 01-25-2021, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosine

I've been looking for a way to remotely turn the pages on my Kindle. I saw KindleLazy, but unfortunately it looks like the newer Kindles have been locked down pretty tight.

I've been working on a hardware remote page turner that would work for any touch screen e-reader. This prototype is on a breadboard, but it will be packaged into something nicer for real usage.

Right now, I'm controlling it using an iPhone. It could potentially be extended to work with Android and other remotes.

Here's a video showing the core functionality: https://youtu.be/bNfeJDhpqjg

Is there any interest in this? What do you guys think?

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Hi Cosine, did you manage to get it working? I love the idea of a remote control page turner, but I'm using the 5th Gen Kindle Paperwhite so not sure whether there is a compatible device.

Thanks in advance.

Pajamaman · 01-25-2021, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idab

You can already buy remote controlled momentary switch buttons for $10.99 (with remote) on Amazon.

These would replace the page turn buttons on an Oasis without issue.

OP is just being silly

Do you have a link for that device?

I did not know that such a remote page turn device already exists for the oasis.

Pajamaman · 01-25-2021, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pajamaman

Do you have a link for that device?

I did not know that such a remote page turn device already exists for the oasis.

idab won't be answering because:
1) no such device exists for oasis, or any recent Kindle.
2) he got banned for being unpleasant, as he demonstrated on this thread.

OP don't be put off by his very unpleasant and inaccurate comments. A lot of people would be interested in your work.

Alaxander609 · 01-26-2021, 03:50 PM

This is awesome - would like to get this done to my PW3 build in to the case.

can you please share the details on schematic & how this is possible ?

Alaxander609 · 01-27-2021, 10:18 AM

did some research - won't be best if we can get ground from Adrino & regular it with N channel FET ???

Please share the schematics - don't leave us hanging bro

Renate · 09-10-2021, 06:48 AM

Interesting...
cosine is using little reed relays to switch the contact to ground.
It's not a bad approach, but then you have the capacitance of the lead wire.
I did a similar thing using forward/reverse pair of diodes directly at the contact point.
I used adhesive copper tape that I punched with a notebook hole puncher.
There are some use cases for this stick-on automation, but I'd prefer not to encumber the screeen.

Nowadays, a Bluetooth clicker is the solution.
You could make a WiFi daemon to listen and inject keys.
You could also make a USB HID peripheral to send PgUp/PgDn.
(You can even just gut a USB keyboard that's in the trash and put two buttons on it.)
You can put in a connector for serial console and connect a little command injector.
You could parallel the hard keys in the device.
Outside of that, I can't think how you could do it.

06-16-2020, 12:08 AM	#1
cosine Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2020 Device: Kindle Oasis	Remote Page Turner Prototype I've been looking for a way to remotely turn the pages on my Kindle. I saw KindleLazy, but unfortunately it looks like the newer Kindles have been locked down pretty tight. I've been working on a hardware remote page turner that would work for any touch screen e-reader. This prototype is on a breadboard, but it will be packaged into something nicer for real usage. Right now, I'm controlling it using an iPhone. It could potentially be extended to work with Android and other remotes. Here's a video showing the core functionality: https://youtu.be/bNfeJDhpqjg Is there any interest in this? What do you guys think? Last edited by pdurrant; 06-16-2020 at 05:37 AM.

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06-16-2020, 09:24 PM	#2
coplate Guru Posts: 645 Karma: 1888888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: prs-505, Kindle Keyboard 3g, PW3	I fricking love it. What kind of wires do you have taped to the screen? It could be built into a paperwhite case, or a oasis sleeve of some wor, and just live in the very corners. does it just apply 3v or how does it actually trigger the "touch"?

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idab Banned Posts: 34 Karma: 18677 Join Date: May 2020 Device: Paperwhite 3	What's the point? You need to be close enough to read it anyway. This seems like a waste of time.

06-17-2020, 06:02 PM	#5
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,505 Karma: 64095689 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Yes, I could certainly see uses for this! I'm following the thread.

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coplate Guru Posts: 645 Karma: 1888888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: prs-505, Kindle Keyboard 3g, PW3	When I was doing my jailbreak version of this, my idea was to use it on a treadmill. Since Lifting my arms and swiping or tapping every N seconds was uncomfortable, but just holding a clicker in my hand sounded like it would be much more comfortable.

01-26-2021, 03:50 PM	#13
Alaxander609 Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2021 Device: Kindle PW3	This is awesome - would like to get this done to my PW3 build in to the case. can you please share the details on schematic & how this is possible ?

01-27-2021, 10:18 AM	#14
Alaxander609 Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2021 Device: Kindle PW3	did some research - won't be best if we can get ground from Adrino & regular it with N channel FET ??? Please share the schematics - don't leave us hanging bro

09-10-2021, 06:48 AM	#15
Renate Wizard Posts: 2,722 Karma: 11755151 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5	Interesting... cosine is using little reed relays to switch the contact to ground. It's not a bad approach, but then you have the capacitance of the lead wire. I did a similar thing using forward/reverse pair of diodes directly at the contact point. I used adhesive copper tape that I punched with a notebook hole puncher. There are some use cases for this stick-on automation, but I'd prefer not to encumber the screeen. Nowadays, a Bluetooth clicker is the solution. You could make a WiFi daemon to listen and inject keys. You could also make a USB HID peripheral to send PgUp/PgDn. (You can even just gut a USB keyboard that's in the trash and put two buttons on it.) You can put in a connector for serial console and connect a little command injector. You could parallel the hard keys in the device. Outside of that, I can't think how you could do it.

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