Amazon Kindle DX graphite - 2.5.8 restoration

r4u5ch · 01-01-2019, 02:39 PM

Hi, people. I'm sorry for bringing this up, but I recently got a kindle DX graphite with free 3G and the last owner installed version 3.2.1. I figured this may well be the reason why the internet of the device doesn't work. I can't even browse the kindle store, so the thing 'works' only with very basic functions.

I have been able to find an update file for 2.5.8, but I can't simply "update" to an older version, it seems... Please help, if possible.

Deskisamess · 01-01-2019, 02:43 PM

It never ran 3.** firmware.

What happens if you reset it to factory specs?

NiLuJe · 01-01-2019, 03:14 PM

A factory reset doesn't affect the FW on Kindles

.

Unless you have a full original matching image backup, you're fairly screwed, as Kubrick doesn't support the DX.

You're pretty much forced into going into even crazier territory, which'd be upgrading to 3.4.2, which I'm not sure anyone ever did, because the whole 3.x on a DX thing was a fairly terrible idea to begin with for roughly 99% of the population

.

But to answer your question: yes, the outdated FW is why most SSL adjacent services are broken.

Deskisamess · 01-01-2019, 03:24 PM

I wasn't sure if a reset would work on a hacked device. I owned a DXG for a minute, back in 2010.

montalex · 01-01-2019, 08:27 PM

I have a Kindle DX with 3G. The only site I can visit is Amazon. My understanding is that internet beyond Amazon is no longing provided for 2nd generation devices. My K3s can go anywhere still. I use them for email when I'm out of the city.

r4u5ch · 01-02-2019, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

A factory reset doesn't affect the FW on Kindles

.
You're pretty much forced into going into even crazier territory, which'd be upgrading to 3.4.2, which I'm not sure anyone ever did, because the whole 3.x on a DX thing was a fairly terrible idea to begin with for roughly 99% of the population

.

I didn't know there was 3.4.2, to begin with.

Thanks for the detailed answer - at least I'm in picture of my "complicated" situation, now.

Unfortunately, it seems that Duokan can't be installed from 3.2.1 as well... did somebody try that before?

r4u5ch · 01-02-2019, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montalex

I have a Kindle DX with 3G. The only site I can visit is Amazon. My understanding is that internet beyond Amazon is no longing provided for 2nd generation devices. My K3s can go anywhere still. I use them for email when I'm out of the city.

So what you're saying is that, even if I were to somehow restore it to 2.*.* it still wouldn't be able to do internet-things? In that case, at least I wouldn't have to worry any longer...

It's a shame that amazon discontinued the DX series, anyway.

NiLuJe · 01-02-2019, 09:07 AM

I'm not familiar with the "browsing" aspect of the issue and how/if Amazon nerfed the 3G access, but SSL support is definitely borked unless you're running the latest FW (so, even Amazon services would be affected in that scenario).

(To be exact, on 2.x, make that "the latest FW, plus the latest 'service update'"

).

montalex · 01-02-2019, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r4u5ch

So what you're saying is that, even if I were to somehow restore it to 2.*.* it still wouldn't be able to do internet-things? In that case, at least I wouldn't have to worry any longer...

It's a shame that amazon discontinued the DX series, anyway.

On my DX 3G I can no longer visit Wikipedia or Google -- none of the bookmarks work. The only way to go to Amazon is through menu/shop in Kindle Store. Yes, Amazon has definitely limited internet on the DX and Kindle 2.

I'm waiting for the sad day when this happens with Kindle 3! There are quite a few still around, so I'm hoping Amazon will leave things as they are. On newer Kindles one can no longer receive and send email. This was a big plus for me, as I am often without an internet connection and I don't have a cell phone. I love Amazon for providing this!

j.p.s · 01-02-2019, 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=montalex;3794022]On my DX 3G I can no longer visit Wikipedia or Google -- none of the bookmarks work. The only way to go to Amazon is through menu/shop in Kindle Store. Yes, Amazon has definitely limited internet on the DX and Kindle 2.
/QUOTE]

I think the Kindle 2 (Sprint 3G) lost Amazon store access a few months ago.

HarryT · 01-03-2019, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montalex

I'm waiting for the sad day when this happens with Kindle 3! There are quite a few still around, so I'm hoping Amazon will leave things as they are.

Many telecoms operators are starting to decommission their 3G networks. That's something which is outside Amazon's control. (More modern Kindle can use 4G/LTE).

fduniho · 01-06-2019, 08:18 PM

When I got my Kindle DX Graphite last year, I updated it to the latest version that runs on it, and that was to 2.5.8.. I do not know how it could have 3.2.1. on it. On mine, using wireless uses up the battery really fast. I used wireless long enough to get it registered, but now I just sideload books to it. By going to "Your Content and Devices" on Amazon, you can download versions of your ebooks for any registered device you have. So, I just download them for the DX Graphite and copy them over. If you haven't registered your device yet, calling tech support at Amazon may help. That's what I did with mine.

heyman · 05-22-2019, 05:18 AM

update_restore-os.bin
find this

DeKuns · 05-22-2019, 06:54 AM

Ask the seller if they still have the update_restore-os.bin and the root images to restore to 2.5.8. Otherwise, the very bumpy way to 3.4.2 is the only thing that could remedy your problem. The happy day has come for all Gen 1-2 users. Just by yesterday, Amazon remedy registration of Gen 1-2 Kindle.

I have the image of my DXG, but I cannot share it as it is forbidden by law I think and by my early observation of the image, it seemed that it contains `private key' of which is again not public domain. Sorry!

Anyway, firmware 2.5.8 now cannot access the internet through the browser anymore and you cannot annotate and highlight .pdf. I could confirm firmware 3.x enable annotate and highlight .pdf, but prior 3.4.2 the security certificate has expired. It is up to you now, 3.2.1 is useful for .pdf reading but no book store and internet. 2.5.8 not very useful for .pdf, Librerator R2 can only add highlight but not annotate of .pdf. But 2.5.8 enable you to buy book from Amazon.

heyman · 05-22-2019, 08:30 AM

i grabbed the file update_restore-os.bin from the internet, my gear chain rebooted like 5 times, it's now back to 2.5.8

.....

01-01-2019, 02:39 PM	#1
r4u5ch Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2019 Device: kindle dx graphite	Amazon Kindle DX graphite - 2.5.8 restoration Hi, people. I'm sorry for bringing this up, but I recently got a kindle DX graphite with free 3G and the last owner installed version 3.2.1. I figured this may well be the reason why the internet of the device doesn't work. I can't even browse the kindle store, so the thing 'works' only with very basic functions. I have been able to find an update file for 2.5.8, but I can't simply "update" to an older version, it seems... Please help, if possible.

01-01-2019, 03:14 PM	#3
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	A factory reset doesn't affect the FW on Kindles . Unless you have a full original matching image backup, you're fairly screwed, as Kubrick doesn't support the DX. You're pretty much forced into going into even crazier territory, which'd be upgrading to 3.4.2, which I'm not sure anyone ever did, because the whole 3.x on a DX thing was a fairly terrible idea to begin with for roughly 99% of the population . But to answer your question: yes, the outdated FW is why most SSL adjacent services are broken. Last edited by NiLuJe; 01-01-2019 at 03:18 PM.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Free (Kindle UK) Secrets We Keep [Irish Literary House Restoration Drama w/Romance]	ATDrake	Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links)	0	04-30-2017 03:53 PM
Free (Kindle/iTunes) Reign of Shadows [High Fantasy Kingdom Restoration Epic]	ATDrake	Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links)	1	02-11-2015 09:16 AM
kindle 2 not support pdf while kindle 3 and DX (white/graphite) supports it?	kocoman	Amazon Kindle	1	09-05-2014 11:23 AM
Ended Amazon Kindle DX Graphite [SOLD LOCALLY]	PoisonWolf	Flea Market	28	08-09-2011 11:12 PM
Kindle DX Graphite	eidahl	Amazon Kindle	5	10-30-2010 07:58 PM

01-01-2019, 02:43 PM	#2
Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,680 Karma: 43102409 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 7+, iPad mini, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8"	It never ran 3.** firmware. What happens if you reset it to factory specs?

01-01-2019, 03:24 PM	#4
Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,680 Karma: 43102409 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 7+, iPad mini, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8"	I wasn't sure if a reset would work on a hacked device. I owned a DXG for a minute, back in 2010.

01-01-2019, 08:27 PM	#5
montalex Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1283268 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: KindleDX,Kindle 4, Kindle Keyboard 3G	I have a Kindle DX with 3G. The only site I can visit is Amazon. My understanding is that internet beyond Amazon is no longing provided for 2nd generation devices. My K3s can go anywhere still. I use them for email when I'm out of the city.

01-02-2019, 09:07 AM	#8
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	I'm not familiar with the "browsing" aspect of the issue and how/if Amazon nerfed the 3G access, but SSL support is definitely borked unless you're running the latest FW (so, even Amazon services would be affected in that scenario). (To be exact, on 2.x, make that "the latest FW, plus the latest 'service update'" ).

01-02-2019, 03:11 PM	#10
j.p.s Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,519 Karma: 100606001 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: pb360	[QUOTE=montalex;3794022]On my DX 3G I can no longer visit Wikipedia or Google -- none of the bookmarks work. The only way to go to Amazon is through menu/shop in Kindle Store. Yes, Amazon has definitely limited internet on the DX and Kindle 2. /QUOTE] I think the Kindle 2 (Sprint 3G) lost Amazon store access a few months ago.

01-06-2019, 08:18 PM	#12
fduniho Addict Posts: 201 Karma: 9146378 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York State, USA Device: Kindle Touch, DX, PW4, PW5, Scribe; Likebook Mars; Fire HD 8; iPad	When I got my Kindle DX Graphite last year, I updated it to the latest version that runs on it, and that was to 2.5.8.. I do not know how it could have 3.2.1. on it. On mine, using wireless uses up the battery really fast. I used wireless long enough to get it registered, but now I just sideload books to it. By going to "Your Content and Devices" on Amazon, you can download versions of your ebooks for any registered device you have. So, I just download them for the DX Graphite and copy them over. If you haven't registered your device yet, calling tech support at Amazon may help. That's what I did with mine.

05-22-2019, 05:18 AM	#13
heyman Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Apr 2019 Device: sony	update_restore-os.bin find this

05-22-2019, 06:54 AM	#14
DeKuns Connoisseur Posts: 89 Karma: 133654 Join Date: Apr 2019 Device: Kindle DX Graphite	Ask the seller if they still have the update_restore-os.bin and the root images to restore to 2.5.8. Otherwise, the very bumpy way to 3.4.2 is the only thing that could remedy your problem. The happy day has come for all Gen 1-2 users. Just by yesterday, Amazon remedy registration of Gen 1-2 Kindle. I have the image of my DXG, but I cannot share it as it is forbidden by law I think and by my early observation of the image, it seemed that it contains `private key' of which is again not public domain. Sorry! Anyway, firmware 2.5.8 now cannot access the internet through the browser anymore and you cannot annotate and highlight .pdf. I could confirm firmware 3.x enable annotate and highlight .pdf, but prior 3.4.2 the security certificate has expired. It is up to you now, 3.2.1 is useful for .pdf reading but no book store and internet. 2.5.8 not very useful for .pdf, Librerator R2 can only add highlight but not annotate of .pdf. But 2.5.8 enable you to buy book from Amazon.

05-22-2019, 08:30 AM	#15
heyman Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Apr 2019 Device: sony	i grabbed the file update_restore-os.bin from the internet, my gear chain rebooted like 5 times, it's now back to 2.5.8 .....

Advert

Advert