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Amazon listens to authors; changes KU pay to per-page model
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Hmmm, wonder what this does if the reader is the type who reads the last few pages of the book first before deciding to start. (Not my thing, but I know people who do this all the time). Will the author get credit for the entire book? And if so, will authors of novels try to game the system by asking their fanbase to borrow the books and just turn to the last pages?
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Remember, Kindles track your reading speed page by page, not just the last page seen. |
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This is new to me...I didn't realize kindle tracked how much I read in each book....I always assumed they tracked how many books, and what kinds....but page-by-page!! Intrusive much?!?!?
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That is a nice change. Sounds interesting. Wonder if that motivates bigger publishers to put some of their backlist into KU. Obviously not the BPH.
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cf. the Time Left to Read feature. No one has ever confirmed that that is either uploaded to Amazon servers or confined to the Kindle.
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"Amazon typically sets SRL at chapter 1 so readers can start reading the core content of your book as soon as they open it."
That's interesting. I always assumed it was the publisher that decided that. I don't like it, personally; I'd rather start at the cover. |
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Another reason, my Kindle stays 'off the grid' with wireless off. I cut it off long enough to download the book, then it goes right back to airplane mode.
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Being a short story, essay, and poetry writer I prefer the old method.
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How so? Why isn't page tracking going to work? Publishing has long paid by length and since Amazon is paying by a standard page metric they are in effect paying by the word. Only it is by words *read* rather than words published. Which makes sense because the only real constraint on KU consumption is "eyeball-hours", the amount of time the subscriber can spend reading in a given month. Payment is fixed, number of subscribers is fixed, and over the total subscriber base the average reading speed and time is going to be fixed. Amazon will thus be able to set the monthly payment pool at a satusfactory (for them) per word rate. And payout will be the same if the subscriber reads 30 10,000 word shorts or 4 75,000 word novels. A lot of authors have been lobbying for this. Very publicly. For example: http://www.hughhowey.com/new-ku-payout-structure/ So Amazon took a new look at their system and changed it. One notable change is that the old 10% threshold goes away. Now authors get paid even if the reader fails to reach the threshold. Conversely, the author only gets full pay for books that are read fully. Which means books like THE GOLDFINCH are now poor candidates for KU. ![]() Last edited by fjtorres; 06-16-2015 at 07:10 AM. |
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Hopefully this'll mean the end of the "serial novels" that authors have been using purely as a mechanism for making more money on KU. As a reader, I loath them.
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However, if the story itself is episodic there are good reasons to stick with the serial format, chief among them visibility. There is (marketing) value in having a longer list of titles in the catalog. Serials have been around pretty much forever (I doubt Homer performed THE ODYSSEY in one loonnngggg session. ![]() Proper serials are a narrative form unto themselves, just as TV series are distinct from movies. There's room aplenty in the ebook world. Last edited by fjtorres; 06-16-2015 at 08:01 AM. |
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You'll just update the stats the next time you connect to download a book. At most what you'll achieve is delay the time the author gets paid.
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