PalmOne releases PIM upgrade

ignatz · 09-09-2004, 10:08 PM

Okay so we're a little behind on this, but...
From PalmOne:

Quote:

PIM Support Update for Tungsten E, Tungsten T3, Zire 31 and Zire 72 handhelds

This update backs up the extended Personal Information Manager (PIM) functions of Tungsten E, Tungsten T3, Zire 31 and Zire 72 handhelds, and corrects incompatibilities discovered between these devices and some third-party applications. In addition, the update includes several smaller code adjustments and solutions.

Haven't seen much more about it than this. There's no specification about what problems this fixes, or with what 3rd party apps it deals. I went ahead and installed it on my T|E, but there's nothing noticeable.

derekweb · 09-10-2004, 10:55 AM

I noticed this about 2 weeks ago on PalmOne's web site, as I was going through and doing a standard "search" for data upgrades. Figured it was time, since I had just finished re-imaging my computer and was reinstalling everything anyway.

But you're right. There is absolutely no information to detail exactly what they did here with this service pack, ... and sheesh! Could they have been any quieter about it's release?

macrotor · 09-10-2004, 12:30 PM

Basically, it fixes compatibility problems with 3rd-party applications that modify the contents of the addressbook and datebook. Examples are Agendus, MyWeek, Supernames, etc.
Not everyone saw the compatibility problems, but it was infuriating to those that did. PalmOne sent a message about the update to those that reported the bug.
That's about it! The Brighthand forums are pretty good for questions about Palm hardware. They don't have anything like mobileread for reading software, though!

hacker · 09-10-2004, 03:25 PM

We've tried to reverse engineer the differences between pre-update and post-update here, and we can find nothing different.

Does anyone have an actual list of what is "fixed", with real-world examples we can use to validate this?

Syno · 06-23-2005, 07:39 AM

Good Afternoon,

Hoping you can help me out ASAP!!!

I think I may have done something very bad!!!

I used JackSprat to delete a bunch of built-in's on my handheld (Tungsten T3).....more specifically: I removed / deleted (amoung other things)=>

Calendar
Contacts
Memo
Tasks

I did this because I have (respectively):

DateBk5
PhoneMagic
MemoPLUS
ToDoPLUS

But now I see today that my conduits (for the Palm Desktop) have nothing to sync up to on the handheld!!!!

Am I just completely screwed or what?

I DID use the backup feature of JackSprat but have already used ALL of the space saved with JackSprat and JackFlash.

Is that the only option though? Complete restore?
If so ....... sigh ..... how do I go about doing it?

I've spent COUNTLESS hours getting the handheld to where it is now so I really want this to be a last resort option.

Thanks,

Syno

Alexander Turcic · 06-23-2005, 07:55 AM

Looks like you are using an older version of JackSprat. I remember that later versions left hidden stubs in the Flash to preserve HotSync conduit functionality. I suggest you do a complete restore. How to do that and how to save you files you can find in the JackSprat documentation:

http://www.brayder.com/support/jacks...kSpratBeta.pdf
or http://www.brayder.com/support/jacksprat/JackSprat.pdf (if you are using an older version)

Syno · 06-23-2005, 08:03 AM

So that's pretty much my only option 'ey? That stinks!!! No way to sort out which PIM is where in the jackSprat backup so that I may just install those. A complete restore is going to be a MESS !!!

Cheers,

Syno

macrotor · 06-23-2005, 08:14 AM

Technically, you could ask someone to copy the ROM files to their SD card (using Filez or something similar) and then have them email it to you. However, that is tedious and somewhat illegal, so I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

Jacksprat should've left a stub so the apps could sync. What version Sprat did you use? In any case, just write down what apps you moved to ROM so that it won't take as much time next round. Yep, I recommend the full restore, upgrade your Jack-apps, then re-apply the ROM moves. Heh, I spent a long time on my first use as well.

- macr0t0r

Syno · 06-23-2005, 08:18 AM

Hmmmm..........

Well, I have a copy of the ROM (using JackSprat) and I have an extra Palm m515 laying around and have TealMover.

How exactly would I go about getting those back and then getting them to my new handheld ............certainly that would not be illegal. I'm doing it all myself and I own it all.

How would I accomplish this?

Thanks very much for some hope ????

Cheers,

Syno

Syno · 06-23-2005, 10:24 AM

Well now!! …………………

Someone suggested that I use Filez to look at things (instead of TealMover). Here is what I found!!!! ....................

In black colored letters:
Name: Calendar-PDat_appl_a68k
Size: 84b, 0 recs.

In GREEN colored letters:
Name: CalendarDB-PDat
Size: 585404b, 4701 recs.

In black colored letters:
Name: CalendarLocationsDB-PDat
Size: 84b, 0 recs.

In black colored letters:
Name: Contacts_PAdd_appl_a68k
Size: 84b, 0 recs.

In black colored letters:
Name: ContactsBDIndex-PAdd
Size: 8868b, 366 recs.

In GREEN colored letters:
Name: Contacts DB-PAdd
Size: 676608b, 1687 recs.

In black colored letters:
Name: Memos-PMem_appl_a68k
Size: 84b, 0 recs.

In GREEN colored letters:
Name: MemosDB- PMem
Size: 79948b, 201 recs.

In black colored letters:
Name: Tasks-PTod_appl_a68k
Size: 84b, 0 recs.

In GREEN colored letters:
Name: Tasks-PTod
Size: 5077b, 51 recs.

These don’t appear to be in Flash.
ROM box is checked in the upper right corner of Filez.
There are NO attributes checked off in Filez for any of these.

So, they APPEAR to be there. It least it looks like it.

What do I need to look for (as to why they may not be working)? ……………if you don’t mind.

Cheers,

Syno

macrotor · 06-23-2005, 12:11 PM

Sounds like it's time to look into your Hotsync Log.

By the way, are you Windows or Mac?.

First make sure you have those conduits enabled as default using the Hotsync manager. They may have been disabled by something else.

Next, run a Hotsync and post the resulting Hotsync Log. It will tell us one of the following:

1. The conduit tries to run, but finds no partner application.
2. The conduit tries to run, but finds no compatible database.
3. The conduit runs, but sees no difference between the desktop and palm databases.
4. The conduit does not run.

Post what you get!

Syno · 06-23-2005, 12:28 PM

Hey.... O.K.- thanks very much for sticking with me. Let me post my log. Again, I have just re-installed the Palm Desktop so I'm not sure how it could be the conduits themselves (but I suppose you never know). DateBook, Address, ToDos, and MemoPad are set as "Do Nothing" ...................Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Memo are set to "syncronize".

Here's what I get:

HotSync operation started 6/23/2005 12:16:20 PM
Inbox To Go - sync configured to Do Nothing
Expense - sync configured to Do Nothing
OK BankBook Conduit
TimeCopy: host 2005/06/23 12:16:25, palm 2005/06/23 12:16:24, diff: 1s
OK TimeCopy
OK Documents To Go
OK Adobe Reader
Ultrasoft Money - sync configured to Do Nothing
iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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iSilo: File copied to external media
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Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Low Temp (2 days out).pdb
iSilo: File copied to external media
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Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Precipitation (2 days out).pdb
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OK iSilo
OK eWallet
Weather Manager v3.1 (Palm/Windows)
Weather Manager: Updating Annapolis, MD
Weather Manager: Updating Bensalem, PA
Weather Manager: Updating Hollywood, CA
Weather Manager: Updating Map: Africa Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: Carribean Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: North Atlantic Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Hawaii Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA North Central Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Northeast Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Northwest Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA South Central Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Southeast Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Southwest Satellite
Weather Manager: Updating Whiteville, NC
Weather Manager: Updating Wilmington, NC
OK Weather Manager
OK Quick Install
SplashPhoto Conduit - Conduit set to do nothing.
OK SplashPhoto
Quickpoint - sync configured to Synchronize
OK Quickpoint
Quicksheet - sync configured to Synchronize
OK Quicksheet
Quickword - sync configured to Synchronize
OK Quickword
OK TravelTracker
OK DoInventory
OK BugMe
-- Backing up db NovarraBitmapCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraBitmapCache.PDB
-- Backing up db NovarraCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraCache.PDB
-- Backing up db NovarraCookieCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraCookieCache.PDB
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-- Backing up db NovarraPageCategories to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraPageCategories.PDB
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-- Backing up db JavaVMCheck_enUS to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\JavaVMCheck_enUS.PRC
-- Backing up db ConnectionMgr50DB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ConnectionMgr50DB.PDB
-- Backing up db NetworkDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NetworkDB.PDB
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-- Backing up db Hi-Launcher DB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Hi-Launcher_DB.PRC
-- Backing up db Fin-WorkSheets to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Fin-WorkSheets.PDB
-- Backing up db FBPSch to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\FBPSch.PRC
-- Backing up db ZL_FavoriteListDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ZL_FavoriteListDB.PDB
-- Backing up db WeatherFavorites to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\WeatherFavorites.PDB
-- Backing up db BugMeBugs to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\BugMeBugs.PDB
-- Backing up db PDATBIA to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\PDATBIA.PRC
-- Backing up db _iSiloDocSettingsDB_ to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\_iSiloDocSettingsDB_.PDB
-- Backing up db FindHack Storage to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\FindHack_Storage.PRC
-- Backing up db DoInventoryFld4X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld4X.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryFld3X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld3X.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryFld2X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld2X.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryFld1X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld1X.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryDateX to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryDateX.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryLocX to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryLocX.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryCatX to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryCatX.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryPrefs to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryPrefs.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryFld to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryLoc to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryLoc.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryCat to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryCat.PDB
-- Backing up db DoInventoryDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryDB.PDB
-- Backing up db Blazer to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Blazer.PRC
-- Backing up db Filez to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Filez.PRC
-- Backing up db WebProV to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\WebProV.PRC
-- Backing up db Budget-PUBD to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Budget-PUBD.PRC
-- Backing up db TeamO Soccer to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\TeamO_Soccer.PRC
-- Backing up db J9 Java Launcher to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\J9_Java_Launcher.PRC
-- Backing up db WebProCACerts to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\WebProCACerts.PDB
-- Backing up db UninstallManagerData to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\UninstallManagerData.PDB
-- Backing up db psysLaunchDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\psysLaunchDB.PDB
-- Backing up db Graffiti ShortCuts to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Graffiti_ShortCuts.PRC
-- Backing up db Saved Preferences to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Saved_Preferences.PRC
-- Backing up db Queries to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Queries.PDB
-- Backing up db KillSoundDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\KillSoundDB.PDB
-- Backing up db AppStats-DATA to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\AppStats-DATA.PDB
-- Backing up db ZLauncherDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ZLauncherDB.PDB
-- The database for TWGolf.PRC was deleted on the handheld. Moving the backup to the Archive folder.
-- The database for ZIOGOLF.PRC was deleted on the handheld. Moving the backup to the Archive folder.
OK System
HotSync operation complete 6/23/2005 12:19:59 PM

Looks like the conduits don't even run (or pick up what's on the handheld ?????

Any advice? As I say, it looks like the "stubs" are there on the handheld. Do I need to do anything with them?

Thanks,

Syno

johnsoax · 06-23-2005, 01:43 PM

Have you tried switching the sets? Meaning turning off Contacts, and turning on Address; turning off Calendar and turning on Datebook?

You may need the old conduits as you no longer have the special programs.

Syno · 06-23-2005, 02:01 PM

I have not yet .........

I was waiting for one last "miracle" to get me going. Just seems like those "stubs" or whatever those things I found in FileZ should do the trick.

Why have I been waiting on the "miracle" instead of switching over to the old conduits??

1) The old ones don't handle the category colors (amoung other things).
2) Some of the other third part app.'s I use (i.e.- DateBk5 and PhoneMagic) will eventually support the extra field in the Palm Desktop (and the old conduits do not).

Blah, blah, blah ........

Anyway ...... I'm going to probably wait until tomorrow just to see if any other idea's crop up and then I'm taking the "plunge" and switching to the old conduits

( hopefully (as a last resort) even that will work .......... if not, I'm really screwed!!!!

Cheers,

Syno

hacker · 06-23-2005, 02:51 PM

I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to figure out here? OS5 devices ship with the new PIM applications (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Memos), instead of the previous applications.

Your existing conduits for Datebook, AddressBook, ToDo, Memos should work fine with these new PIM applications, because they are shadow databases.

Records are written to Contacts for example by default. If an application requests a record from AddressDB.pdb, it is copied there on-demand, and any changes put there are copied back into the main database (ContactsDB-PAdd.pdb) when completed.

Why do you care, as long as your data gets into and out of the applications that need it?

06-23-2005, 07:39 AM	#5
Syno Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005 Device: Tungsten T3	PIM Nightmare ......wake me up PLEASE!!! Good Afternoon, Hoping you can help me out ASAP!!! I think I may have done something very bad!!! I used JackSprat to delete a bunch of built-in's on my handheld (Tungsten T3).....more specifically: I removed / deleted (amoung other things)=> Calendar Contacts Memo Tasks I did this because I have (respectively): DateBk5 PhoneMagic MemoPLUS ToDoPLUS But now I see today that my conduits (for the Palm Desktop) have nothing to sync up to on the handheld!!!! Am I just completely screwed or what? I DID use the backup feature of JackSprat but have already used ALL of the space saved with JackSprat and JackFlash. Is that the only option though? Complete restore? If so ....... sigh ..... how do I go about doing it? I've spent COUNTLESS hours getting the handheld to where it is now so I really want this to be a last resort option. Thanks, Syno

06-23-2005, 08:14 AM	#8
macrotor Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 2418 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fremont, CA, USA Device: Tungsten\|C with Nokia6200	Well....it's not the ONLY option.... Technically, you could ask someone to copy the ROM files to their SD card (using Filez or something similar) and then have them email it to you. However, that is tedious and somewhat illegal, so I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. Jacksprat should've left a stub so the apps could sync. What version Sprat did you use? In any case, just write down what apps you moved to ROM so that it won't take as much time next round. Yep, I recommend the full restore, upgrade your Jack-apps, then re-apply the ROM moves. Heh, I spent a long time on my first use as well. - macr0t0r

06-23-2005, 12:11 PM	#11
macrotor Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 2418 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fremont, CA, USA Device: Tungsten\|C with Nokia6200	Hotsync Log Sounds like it's time to look into your Hotsync Log. By the way, are you Windows or Mac?. First make sure you have those conduits enabled as default using the Hotsync manager. They may have been disabled by something else. Next, run a Hotsync and post the resulting Hotsync Log. It will tell us one of the following: 1. The conduit tries to run, but finds no partner application. 2. The conduit tries to run, but finds no compatible database. 3. The conduit runs, but sees no difference between the desktop and palm databases. 4. The conduit does not run. Post what you get!

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macrotor Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 2418 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fremont, CA, USA Device: Tungsten\|C with Nokia6200	Basically, it fixes compatibility problems with 3rd-party applications that modify the contents of the addressbook and datebook. Examples are Agendus, MyWeek, Supernames, etc. Not everyone saw the compatibility problems, but it was infuriating to those that did. PalmOne sent a message about the update to those that reported the bug. That's about it! The Brighthand forums are pretty good for questions about Palm hardware. They don't have anything like mobileread for reading software, though!

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06-23-2005, 07:55 AM	#6
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Looks like you are using an older version of JackSprat. I remember that later versions left hidden stubs in the Flash to preserve HotSync conduit functionality. I suggest you do a complete restore. How to do that and how to save you files you can find in the JackSprat documentation: http://www.brayder.com/support/jacks...kSpratBeta.pdf or http://www.brayder.com/support/jacksprat/JackSprat.pdf (if you are using an older version)

06-23-2005, 08:03 AM	#7
Syno Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005 Device: Tungsten T3	So that's pretty much my only option 'ey? That stinks!!! No way to sort out which PIM is where in the jackSprat backup so that I may just install those. A complete restore is going to be a MESS !!! Cheers, Syno

06-23-2005, 08:18 AM	#9
Syno Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005 Device: Tungsten T3	Hmmmm.......... Well, I have a copy of the ROM (using JackSprat) and I have an extra Palm m515 laying around and have TealMover. How exactly would I go about getting those back and then getting them to my new handheld ............certainly that would not be illegal. I'm doing it all myself and I own it all. How would I accomplish this? Thanks very much for some hope ???? Cheers, Syno

06-23-2005, 10:24 AM	#10
Syno Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005 Device: Tungsten T3	Well now!! ………………… Someone suggested that I use Filez to look at things (instead of TealMover). Here is what I found!!!! .................... In black colored letters: Name: Calendar-PDat_appl_a68k Size: 84b, 0 recs. In GREEN colored letters: Name: CalendarDB-PDat Size: 585404b, 4701 recs. In black colored letters: Name: CalendarLocationsDB-PDat Size: 84b, 0 recs. In black colored letters: Name: Contacts_PAdd_appl_a68k Size: 84b, 0 recs. In black colored letters: Name: ContactsBDIndex-PAdd Size: 8868b, 366 recs. In GREEN colored letters: Name: Contacts DB-PAdd Size: 676608b, 1687 recs. In black colored letters: Name: Memos-PMem_appl_a68k Size: 84b, 0 recs. In GREEN colored letters: Name: MemosDB- PMem Size: 79948b, 201 recs. In black colored letters: Name: Tasks-PTod_appl_a68k Size: 84b, 0 recs. In GREEN colored letters: Name: Tasks-PTod Size: 5077b, 51 recs. These don’t appear to be in Flash. ROM box is checked in the upper right corner of Filez. There are NO attributes checked off in Filez for any of these. So, they APPEAR to be there. It least it looks like it. What do I need to look for (as to why they may not be working)? ……………if you don’t mind. Cheers, Syno

06-23-2005, 12:28 PM	#12
Syno Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005 Device: Tungsten T3	Hey.... O.K.- thanks very much for sticking with me. Let me post my log. Again, I have just re-installed the Palm Desktop so I'm not sure how it could be the conduits themselves (but I suppose you never know). DateBook, Address, ToDos, and MemoPad are set as "Do Nothing" ...................Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Memo are set to "syncronize". Here's what I get: HotSync operation started 6/23/2005 12:16:20 PM Inbox To Go - sync configured to Do Nothing Expense - sync configured to Do Nothing OK BankBook Conduit TimeCopy: host 2005/06/23 12:16:25, palm 2005/06/23 12:16:24, diff: 1s OK TimeCopy OK Documents To Go OK Adobe Reader Ultrasoft Money - sync configured to Do Nothing iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Africa Satellite.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Africa Satellite.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\American Medical News.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/American Medical News.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Atlantic Infrared Image (1).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Atlantic Infrared Image (1).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Atlantic Radar.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Atlantic Radar.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Atlantic Satellite.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Atlantic Satellite.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Atlantic Visible Image (1).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Atlantic Visible Image (1).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Carribbean.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Carribbean.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\CNN Sports.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/CNN Sports.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\CNN.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/CNN.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (1)_ Infrared.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (1)_ Infrared.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (1)_ TRACK 2.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (1)_ TRACK 2.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (1)_ TRACK.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (1)_ TRACK.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (1)_ Visible.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (1)_ Visible.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (2)_ Infrared.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (2)_ Infrared.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (2)_ TRACK 2.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (2)_ TRACK 2.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (2)_ TRACK.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (2)_ TRACK.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (2)_ Visible.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (2)_ Visible.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (3)_ Infrared.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (3)_ Infrared.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (3)_ TRACK 2.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (3)_ TRACK 2.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (3)_ TRACK.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (3)_ TRACK.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (3)_ Visible.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (3)_ Visible.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (4)_ Infrared.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (4)_ Infrared.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (4)_ TRACK.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (4)_ TRACK.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Current Storm (4)_ Visible.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Current Storm (4)_ Visible.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Gulf Infrared Storm Image (1).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Gulf Infrared Storm Image (1).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Gulf of Mexico Radar.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Gulf of Mexico Radar.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Gulf of Mexico Satellite.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Gulf of Mexico Satellite.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Gulf Visible Storm Image (1).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Gulf Visible Storm Image (1).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Health News Digest.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Health News Digest.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Hurricane Alley.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Hurricane Alley.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Influenza Map (2).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Influenza Map (2).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Influenza Map.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Influenza Map.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Local Radar.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Local Radar.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Redskins.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Redskins.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Regional Radar.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Regional Radar.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Regional Satellite.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Regional Satellite.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Soccer.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Soccer.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\The News Reporter.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/The News Reporter.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Tropical Outlook.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Tropical Outlook.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Flights.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Flights.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Forecast (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Forecast (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Forecast.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Forecast.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US High Temp (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US High Temp (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US High Temp.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US High Temp.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Ice (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Ice (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Ice.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Ice.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US JetStream.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US JetStream.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Low Temp (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Low Temp (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Low Temp.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Low Temp.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Pollen.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Pollen.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Precipitation (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Precipitation (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Precipitation.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Precipitation.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Precipt. Amount (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Precipt. Amount (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Precipt. Amounts.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Precipt. Amounts.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Radar.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Radar.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Satellite.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Satellite.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Severe Weather (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Severe Weather (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Severe Weather.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Severe Weather.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Snowfall (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Snowfall (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Snowfall.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Snowfall.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US UV Index (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US UV Index (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US UV Index.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US UV Index.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Wind gust (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Wind gust (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Wind Gust.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Wind Gust.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Wind Speed (2 days out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Wind Speed (2 days out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\US Wind Speed.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/US Wind Speed.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\USA Today.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/USA Today.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Washington Capitals.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Washington Capitals.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Water Temperature (Zoom In).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Water Temperature (Zoom In).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Water Temperature (Zoom Out).pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Water Temperature (Zoom Out).pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Water Vapor.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Water Vapor.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Wave Height @ Frying Pan Shoals.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Wave Height @ Frying Pan Shoals.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Wave Height @ Myrtle Beach.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Wave Height @ Myrtle Beach.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Waves (7 day) @ Frying Pan.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Waves (7 day) @ Frying Pan.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\Waves (7 day) @ Myrtle Beach.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/Waves (7 day) @ Myrtle Beach.pdb iSilo: File copied to external media Source: C:\Palm\FM\iSiloI\WSJ.pdb Destination: [512 MB]/Palm/Programs/iSilo/WSJ.pdb OK iSilo OK eWallet Weather Manager v3.1 (Palm/Windows) Weather Manager: Updating Annapolis, MD Weather Manager: Updating Bensalem, PA Weather Manager: Updating Hollywood, CA Weather Manager: Updating Map: Africa Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: Carribean Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: North Atlantic Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Hawaii Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA North Central Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Northeast Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Northwest Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA South Central Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Southeast Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Map: USA Southwest Satellite Weather Manager: Updating Whiteville, NC Weather Manager: Updating Wilmington, NC OK Weather Manager OK Quick Install SplashPhoto Conduit - Conduit set to do nothing. OK SplashPhoto Quickpoint - sync configured to Synchronize OK Quickpoint Quicksheet - sync configured to Synchronize OK Quicksheet Quickword - sync configured to Synchronize OK Quickword OK TravelTracker OK DoInventory OK BugMe -- Backing up db NovarraBitmapCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraBitmapCache.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraCache.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraCookieCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraCookieCache.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraHTTPCache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraHTTPCache.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraMGProperties to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraMGProperties.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraBookmarks to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraBookmarks.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraSavedPages to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraSavedPages.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraBookmarkCategories to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraBookmarkCategories.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraPageCategories to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraPageCategories.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraHistoryDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraHistoryDB.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraPersistenceBuffer to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraPersistenceBuffer.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraURLHistory to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraURLHistory.PDB -- Backing up db NovarraFavorites to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NovarraFavorites.PDB -- Backing up db BLBookmark to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\BLBookmark.PDB -- Backing up db ZL_CategoriesDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ZL_CategoriesDB.PDB -- Backing up db Bluetooth Trusted Devices to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Bluetooth_Trusted_Devices.PDB -- Backing up db Bluetooth Device Cache to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Bluetooth_Device_Cache.PDB -- Backing up db JavaVMCheck_enUS to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\JavaVMCheck_enUS.PRC -- Backing up db ConnectionMgr50DB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ConnectionMgr50DB.PDB -- Backing up db NetworkDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\NetworkDB.PDB -- Backing up db PhoneRegistryDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\PhoneRegistryDB.PDB -- Backing up db Hi-Launcher DB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Hi-Launcher_DB.PRC -- Backing up db Fin-WorkSheets to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Fin-WorkSheets.PDB -- Backing up db FBPSch to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\FBPSch.PRC -- Backing up db ZL_FavoriteListDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ZL_FavoriteListDB.PDB -- Backing up db WeatherFavorites to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\WeatherFavorites.PDB -- Backing up db BugMeBugs to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\BugMeBugs.PDB -- Backing up db PDATBIA to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\PDATBIA.PRC -- Backing up db _iSiloDocSettingsDB_ to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\_iSiloDocSettingsDB_.PDB -- Backing up db FindHack Storage to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\FindHack_Storage.PRC -- Backing up db DoInventoryFld4X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld4X.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryFld3X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld3X.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryFld2X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld2X.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryFld1X to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld1X.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryDateX to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryDateX.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryLocX to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryLocX.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryCatX to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryCatX.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryPrefs to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryPrefs.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryFld to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryFld.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryLoc to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryLoc.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryCat to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryCat.PDB -- Backing up db DoInventoryDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\DoInventoryDB.PDB -- Backing up db Blazer to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Blazer.PRC -- Backing up db Filez to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Filez.PRC -- Backing up db WebProV to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\WebProV.PRC -- Backing up db Budget-PUBD to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Budget-PUBD.PRC -- Backing up db TeamO Soccer to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\TeamO_Soccer.PRC -- Backing up db J9 Java Launcher to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\J9_Java_Launcher.PRC -- Backing up db WebProCACerts to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\WebProCACerts.PDB -- Backing up db UninstallManagerData to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\UninstallManagerData.PDB -- Backing up db psysLaunchDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\psysLaunchDB.PDB -- Backing up db Graffiti ShortCuts to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Graffiti_ShortCuts.PRC -- Backing up db Saved Preferences to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Saved_Preferences.PRC -- Backing up db Queries to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\Queries.PDB -- Backing up db KillSoundDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\KillSoundDB.PDB -- Backing up db AppStats-DATA to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\AppStats-DATA.PDB -- Backing up db ZLauncherDB to file C:\Palm\FM\Backup\ZLauncherDB.PDB -- The database for TWGolf.PRC was deleted on the handheld. Moving the backup to the Archive folder. -- The database for ZIOGOLF.PRC was deleted on the handheld. Moving the backup to the Archive folder. OK System HotSync operation complete 6/23/2005 12:19:59 PM Looks like the conduits don't even run (or pick up what's on the handheld ????? Any advice? As I say, it looks like the "stubs" are there on the handheld. Do I need to do anything with them? Thanks, Syno

06-23-2005, 01:43 PM	#13
johnsoax Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 2418 Join Date: Feb 2003 Device: TT3(Home)&Dell x50(Work)	Have you tried switching the sets? Meaning turning off Contacts, and turning on Address; turning off Calendar and turning on Datebook? You may need the old conduits as you no longer have the special programs.

06-23-2005, 02:01 PM	#14
Syno Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005 Device: Tungsten T3	I have not yet ......... I was waiting for one last "miracle" to get me going. Just seems like those "stubs" or whatever those things I found in FileZ should do the trick. Why have I been waiting on the "miracle" instead of switching over to the old conduits?? 1) The old ones don't handle the category colors (amoung other things). 2) Some of the other third part app.'s I use (i.e.- DateBk5 and PhoneMagic) will eventually support the extra field in the Palm Desktop (and the old conduits do not). Blah, blah, blah ........ Anyway ...... I'm going to probably wait until tomorrow just to see if any other idea's crop up and then I'm taking the "plunge" and switching to the old conduits ( hopefully (as a last resort) even that will work .......... if not, I'm really screwed!!!! Cheers, Syno

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06-23-2005, 02:51 PM	#15
hacker Technology Mercenary Posts: 617 Karma: 2561 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East Lyme, CT Device: Direct Neural Implant	I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to figure out here? OS5 devices ship with the new PIM applications (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Memos), instead of the previous applications. Your existing conduits for Datebook, AddressBook, ToDo, Memos should work fine with these new PIM applications, because they are shadow databases. Records are written to Contacts for example by default. If an application requests a record from AddressDB.pdb, it is copied there on-demand, and any changes put there are copied back into the main database (ContactsDB-PAdd.pdb) when completed. Why do you care, as long as your data gets into and out of the applications that need it?