Evil geographic restrictions!

monkeygirl351 · 01-26-2012, 01:43 AM

Hi all,
I have started a new series by a British author. I have the first 2 books. Thayer are the historical fiction books based on robin hood by angus Donald. Anyways, I was going to amazon and figured I buy the third book as I saw it there a few months ago when I bought the other books. Well the third one now says I can't purchase it due to my location (US). I even went to the amazon.uk and couldn't buy it. This is so frustrating, now I know the pain that those outside the US deal with. I emailed the author and his publisher to see why the book was revoked and when it will be back. Wish I knew how to get around the restrictions as I crack drm off all my books anyways. Such a headache. I think I saw on his blog that the paper book is being released later this year, so I am hoping the same will happen with the kindle version. And publishers wonder why people resort to torrents and such! I won't do that as I would like to pay the author for his efforts but jeez I feel like they want me to go through hoops. If anyone knows how to bypass geo restrictions in reverse aka getting books outside the us, I'd be willing to try it. It's a shame though as I have over a hundred dollars in gift cards to use at amazon. Grr.

Quexos · 01-26-2012, 02:01 AM

If they block you from purchasing the book then it should not be your concern whether to reward the author or not. It is the responsibility of those restricting you. From that point on it's up to you to either be smart and "get" the book or just give up your rights and beg them to take your money and until that day comes just submit yourself to them and well, your loss.

monkeygirl351 · 01-26-2012, 02:22 AM

Unfortunately the book isn't available "alternatively" I looked out of curiosity lol.

Sweetpea · 01-26-2012, 02:23 AM

What series is that? I love books about that subject...

Ah, found it. Outlaw, Holy Warrior and King's Man. BoB also only has the first 2 books...

Fbone · 01-26-2012, 03:56 AM

He changed publishers with the 3rd book. Macmillan to Little Brown UK (Hachette).

His 4th book in the series is due out July 2012.

Edit: Just noticed the first two books are reprints. So he may have signed a new contract.

wallcraft · 01-26-2012, 04:16 AM

In this case, there probably will be an ebook in the US when hardback comes out. Amazon US has the UK paper version available from 3rd parties, and you can probably buy it directly from Amazon UK and have it shipped to the US. As has been discussed repeatedly here, this isn't allowed for the ebook.

Series by UK authors is one reason I have a UK Kobo account. For example The Order of the Scales by Stephen Deas is the 3rd in a series and I bought the ebook back in May from WHSmith (I now go directly to Kobo). It comes out in the US next month. I do this using an Entropay virtual credit card, but it is a hassle to get from the US and they charge a fee up front. Others have had success using gift cards. For the saga of what happened last time I mentioned this, see Top Ten Books Missing as eBooks and continue reading for what happened next.

Blue Tyson · 01-26-2012, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeygirl351

Hi all,
I have started a new series by a British author. I have the first 2 books. Thayer are the historical fiction books based on robin hood by angus Donald. Anyways, I was going to amazon and figured I buy the third book as I saw it there a few months ago when I bought the other books. Well the third one now says I can't purchase it due to my location (US). I even went to the amazon.uk and couldn't buy it. This is so frustrating, now I know the pain that those outside the US deal with. I emailed the author and his publisher to see why the book was revoked and when it will be back. Wish I knew how to get around the restrictions as I crack drm off all my books anyways. Such a headache. I think I saw on his blog that the paper book is being released later this year, so I am hoping the same will happen with the kindle version. And publishers wonder why people resort to torrents and such! I won't do that as I would like to pay the author for his efforts but jeez I feel like they want me to go through hoops. If anyone knows how to bypass geo restrictions in reverse aka getting books outside the us, I'd be willing to try it. It's a shame though as I have over a hundred dollars in gift cards to use at amazon. Grr.

If it is a kindle book, add yourself a UK address. Maybe in Nottingham. ;-)

Change country in Manage your Kindle. Buy book. Change back to USA.

carpetmojo · 01-26-2012, 06:07 AM

I've had to resort to buying used copies of a 4 book series recently, for exactly the same reason - have to say it was a nice change to read a real book for a decent stretch.

( Sits back and waits for brickbats........

)

Apache · 01-26-2012, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Tyson

If it is a kindle book, add yourself a UK address. Maybe in Nottingham. ;-)

Change country in Manage your Kindle. Buy book. Change back to USA.

Doesn't work if you are using a US Credit Card.
Apache

patrickt · 01-26-2012, 07:50 AM

I believe that someday there will be international publishing houses excluding only countries that wish to control what's published at a national level. It has to be a pain for authors to have to do contracts country by country and it's definitely a pain to readers. I'm old so I don't think it will be in my lifetime, though.

treadlightly · 01-26-2012, 08:12 AM

I'd find a buddy in the UK (maybe off this list, I'd volunteer but I'm not in the UK) to buy the book for you, remove DRM and send it to you with reimbursement, deleting any remaining copy. They might be in a similar situation with another book only available in the US.

TheSFReader · 01-26-2012, 08:25 AM

On the top left ârt of the screen is a little link :

Quote:

Your Country or Region (What's this?)
United States

When clicking on the "What's this", you get

Quote:

Certain Kindle Titles are not available everywhere. Kindle Titles that are available in your country or region will be displayed.

If the country or region displayed is incorrect, you may change it at www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle.

So ...

HarryT · 01-26-2012, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt

It has to be a pain for authors to have to do contracts country by country

In most cases, to sign regional contract is the choice of the author; they can make more money that way. Most books only ever make the author their advance, and by signing with separate UK and US contract, for example, there are two advances.

Sweetpea · 01-26-2012, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache

Doesn't work if you are using a US Credit Card.
Apache

Weird, because it works with a Dutch CC and an American address..

Blue Tyson · 01-26-2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache

Doesn't work if you are using a US Credit Card.
Apache

You mean you just tried it?

01-26-2012, 01:43 AM	#1
monkeygirl351 Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 496762 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: ipod touch, ipad, and kindle 3	Evil geographic restrictions! Hi all, I have started a new series by a British author. I have the first 2 books. Thayer are the historical fiction books based on robin hood by angus Donald. Anyways, I was going to amazon and figured I buy the third book as I saw it there a few months ago when I bought the other books. Well the third one now says I can't purchase it due to my location (US). I even went to the amazon.uk and couldn't buy it. This is so frustrating, now I know the pain that those outside the US deal with. I emailed the author and his publisher to see why the book was revoked and when it will be back. Wish I knew how to get around the restrictions as I crack drm off all my books anyways. Such a headache. I think I saw on his blog that the paper book is being released later this year, so I am hoping the same will happen with the kindle version. And publishers wonder why people resort to torrents and such! I won't do that as I would like to pay the author for his efforts but jeez I feel like they want me to go through hoops. If anyone knows how to bypass geo restrictions in reverse aka getting books outside the us, I'd be willing to try it. It's a shame though as I have over a hundred dollars in gift cards to use at amazon. Grr.

01-26-2012, 02:23 AM	#4
Sweetpea Grand Sorcerer Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6	What series is that? I love books about that subject... Ah, found it. Outlaw, Holy Warrior and King's Man. BoB also only has the first 2 books... Last edited by Sweetpea; 01-26-2012 at 02:34 AM.

01-26-2012, 03:56 AM	#5
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,202 Karma: 101596194 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	He changed publishers with the 3rd book. Macmillan to Little Brown UK (Hachette). His 4th book in the series is due out July 2012. Edit: Just noticed the first two books are reprints. So he may have signed a new contract. Last edited by Fbone; 01-26-2012 at 04:00 AM.

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01-26-2012, 02:01 AM	#2
Quexos Member Retired Posts: 1,999 Karma: 11348924 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Limbo Device: none	If they block you from purchasing the book then it should not be your concern whether to reward the author or not. It is the responsibility of those restricting you. From that point on it's up to you to either be smart and "get" the book or just give up your rights and beg them to take your money and until that day comes just submit yourself to them and well, your loss.

01-26-2012, 02:22 AM	#3
monkeygirl351 Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 496762 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: ipod touch, ipad, and kindle 3	Unfortunately the book isn't available "alternatively" I looked out of curiosity lol.

01-26-2012, 04:16 AM	#6
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	In this case, there probably will be an ebook in the US when hardback comes out. Amazon US has the UK paper version available from 3rd parties, and you can probably buy it directly from Amazon UK and have it shipped to the US. As has been discussed repeatedly here, this isn't allowed for the ebook. Series by UK authors is one reason I have a UK Kobo account. For example The Order of the Scales by Stephen Deas is the 3rd in a series and I bought the ebook back in May from WHSmith (I now go directly to Kobo). It comes out in the US next month. I do this using an Entropay virtual credit card, but it is a hassle to get from the US and they charge a fee up front. Others have had success using gift cards. For the saga of what happened last time I mentioned this, see Top Ten Books Missing as eBooks and continue reading for what happened next.

01-26-2012, 06:07 AM	#8
carpetmojo Wizard Posts: 3,117 Karma: 9269999 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: UK Device: Sony- T3, PRS650, 350, T1/2/3, Paperwhite, Fire 8.9,Samsung Tab S 10.5	I've had to resort to buying used copies of a 4 book series recently, for exactly the same reason - have to say it was a nice change to read a real book for a decent stretch. ( Sits back and waits for brickbats........ )

01-26-2012, 07:50 AM	#10
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	I believe that someday there will be international publishing houses excluding only countries that wish to control what's published at a national level. It has to be a pain for authors to have to do contracts country by country and it's definitely a pain to readers. I'm old so I don't think it will be in my lifetime, though.

01-26-2012, 08:12 AM	#11
treadlightly Wizard Posts: 1,370 Karma: 6957792 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo H2O	I'd find a buddy in the UK (maybe off this list, I'd volunteer but I'm not in the UK) to buy the book for you, remove DRM and send it to you with reimbursement, deleting any remaining copy. They might be in a similar situation with another book only available in the US.

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