Palm Garnet VM now available for Nokia N770, N800, N810

Nate the great · 11-13-2007, 09:38 AM

Access has released a Virtual Machine of PalmOS 5 for the Nokia 770, N800, and N810. I haven't tried it yet because I need to charge my 770 first. I also wanted to share it immediately.

Do you realize what a great idea this was? First of all, this is the only Garnet VM anywhere. No other Palm emulator went beyond OS4. Plus, I think there is a significant number of people moved on from Palm to one of Nokia's ITs. Most of us miss our Palm software, still have it backed up, and now we can run it again.

When Access releases the next PalmOS in a couple years, there will potentially be a large number of people who still use their Palm software, and will consider moving back to the PalmOS.

Brilliant.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/13/v...tablet-hoozah/
http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/

tompe · 11-13-2007, 11:19 AM

So if I buy a N810 I can run DateBk5 on it. That was good news. I wonder when they will start selling it...

Nate the great · 11-13-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

So if I buy a N810 I can run DateBk5 on it. That was good news. I wonder when they will start selling it...

The beta is available now for free, and I am told the final version will also be free.

Small update:
I haven't downloaded a copy yet, they are probably overwhelmed with requests. But I have seen a review. The beta only has one orientation, and it looks like it currently uses 320 by 480 of the tablet's 800 by 480 resolution. The actual screen area is smaller than I had before on my Tapwave Zodiac, but it does have the same resolution. Hopefully they will add a full screen mode.

Nate the great · 11-14-2007, 09:36 AM

Has anyone downloaded this? I have been unable to. I have registered several different emails, and received no response.

igorsk · 11-14-2007, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Do you realize what a great idea this was? First of all, this is the only Garnet VM anywhere.

Um, Garnet VM for Linux and Windows has been available for quite a while, I believe. Now they just ported it to Nokia.

simond · 11-14-2007, 10:00 AM

I downloaded and installed it for my 770 yesterday, it's working nicely for me so far, it can go horizontally and vertically, although they could fill the screen up a bit more, it even ran a few of Astrawares games with no problem, this is tempting me to get a N810 as my next Palm, it feels much better than StyleTap on PocketPC!

rlauzon · 11-14-2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simond

I downloaded and installed it for my 770 yesterday, it's working nicely for me so far, it can go horizontally and vertically, although they could fill the screen up a bit more, it even ran a few of Astrawares games with no problem, this is tempting me to get a N810 as my next Palm, it feels much better than StyleTap on PocketPC!

I installed it yesterday and loaded it up with my data and some applications.

It worked well for about 2.5 hours today. Then the GVM crashed and took all my apps and data with it.

It does show promise, but it's also not quite ready for prime time. Maybe for running some used-every-so-often Palm apps, but not for replacing my Palm TX.

Nate the great · 11-14-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igorsk

Um, Garnet VM for Linux and Windows has been available for quite a while, I believe. Now they just ported it to Nokia.

The one I know of from Access (POSE) is an emulator, not a VM. If you do not have a ROM with Garnet in it, it will not work. I searched back in June, and there was no Garnet ROM available and I am pretty sure that I was told by a couple developers that it wouldn't go beyond PalmOS4 at the time.

I just looked now, and see that I might be able to extract a ROM from my own device. Which would be nice, but a lot more work than a VM.

mores · 11-14-2007, 12:41 PM

that picture bugs the hell out of me.
a portrait-mode-program on a landscape screen ?

juck!

simond · 11-14-2007, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

The one I know of from Access (POSE) is an emulator, not a VM. If you do not have a ROM with Garnet in it, it will not work. I searched back in June, and there was no Garnet ROM available and I am pretty sure that I was told by a couple developers that it wouldn't go beyond PalmOS4 at the time.

I just looked now, and see that I might be able to extract a ROM from my own device. Which would be nice, but a lot more work than a VM.

Even if you extract the rom from an OS5 device you can't use it with POSE, POSE only emulates 68k processor code, the Palm Simulators don't emulate ARM, they just run a basic x86 based ported PalmOS which also emulates 68k.

simond · 11-14-2007, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mores

that picture bugs the hell out of me.
a portrait-mode-program on a landscape screen ?

juck!

It can run the other way around too, doesn't look as nice yet

igorsk · 11-14-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

The one I know of from Access (POSE) is an emulator, not a VM. If you do not have a ROM with Garnet in it, it will not work. I searched back in June, and there was no Garnet ROM available and I am pretty sure that I was told by a couple developers that it wouldn't go beyond PalmOS4 at the time.

http://www.access-company.com/develo...tvm/index.html

Nate the great · 11-14-2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igorsk

http://www.access-company.com/develo...tvm/index.html

Thanks.

wallcraft · 11-15-2007, 04:27 AM

I have tried MobiPocket Reader under Garnet VM on a 770. After sorting out that I need to "install" the .prc e-books, this went smoothly. The 320x480 resolution only uses 40% of the screen, but it is a start.

I did not try a secure e-book, but the "about Mobipocket" tab is showing a PID so I assume this will work.

There are reports that eReader and eReader PRO also work.

Alanbe · 11-16-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

When Access releases the next PalmOS in a couple years, there will potentially be a large number of people who still use their Palm software, and will consider moving back to the PalmOS.

I wish I felt so positive. I Love my TX and all the available Palm apps. When Garnet can be run on any device no one will need Palm. One more nail in the coffin.

Alan

11-13-2007, 09:38 AM	#1
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Palm Garnet VM now available for Nokia N770, N800, N810 Access has released a Virtual Machine of PalmOS 5 for the Nokia 770, N800, and N810. I haven't tried it yet because I need to charge my 770 first. I also wanted to share it immediately. Do you realize what a great idea this was? First of all, this is the only Garnet VM anywhere. No other Palm emulator went beyond OS4. Plus, I think there is a significant number of people moved on from Palm to one of Nokia's ITs. Most of us miss our Palm software, still have it backed up, and now we can run it again. When Access releases the next PalmOS in a couple years, there will potentially be a large number of people who still use their Palm software, and will consider moving back to the PalmOS. Brilliant. http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/13/v...tablet-hoozah/ http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/

11-15-2007, 04:27 AM	#14
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	I have tried MobiPocket Reader under Garnet VM on a 770. After sorting out that I need to "install" the .prc e-books, this went smoothly. The 320x480 resolution only uses 40% of the screen, but it is a start. I did not try a secure e-book, but the "about Mobipocket" tab is showing a PID so I assume this will work. There are reports that eReader and eReader PRO also work. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by wallcraft; 11-15-2007 at 04:29 AM.

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tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	So if I buy a N810 I can run DateBk5 on it. That was good news. I wonder when they will start selling it...

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Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Has anyone downloaded this? I have been unable to. I have registered several different emails, and received no response.

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simond Fanatic Posts: 532 Karma: 1062755 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Device: Kobo Aura One, iPad, iPhone	I downloaded and installed it for my 770 yesterday, it's working nicely for me so far, it can go horizontally and vertically, although they could fill the screen up a bit more, it even ran a few of Astrawares games with no problem, this is tempting me to get a N810 as my next Palm, it feels much better than StyleTap on PocketPC!

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