question on dragging word docs into sony

ebooker · 11-05-2010, 12:20 AM

Ok, so i'm experimenting a bit with dragging word docs into the sony reader.
The text appears fine, and as I understand it, the sony reader merely converts them into RTF.

My question is: what happens to headers and footers in a word document? I dont mean footnotes; i mean title/author/page information when they appear in headers and footers at top or bottom of a word document page (just like in a book page).

Do headers and footers vanish in the conversion to rtf? (It appears so, but i just wanted to verify).

Also: if they vanish on the reader: is there some other way to get a word doc that has headers and footers to retain those when viewing on the sony? Pdf format (requiring tiresome zooming)?

What i'd ideally like to see, is changing the "page mode" view on the sony to 'margin cut' to read just the text (ie, to NOT display header/footer); and when I need to see header/footer/original page number, to then change view to "original page" on the sony to SEE the header/footer. I suppose thats asking too much for now? ...

Thanks for any help or thoughts...

doreenjoy · 11-05-2010, 12:28 AM

Huh. I never noticed that my headers weren't being kept.

To rule out one tool, I used Atlantis to create an EPUB from a DOC that has a header, and Atlantis also created the EPUB without the headers. Just an FYI.

I hope someone with the answer will show up soon.

ebooker · 11-05-2010, 01:24 AM

most of the discussion out there on this topic is about how to eliminate the header/footer (most people want to just read the text). However that wont work for me most of the time -- i'm digitizing schoolbooks and i need the original page number information contained in the headers or footers. I need to be able to see that in my ebook.

For now, converting my jpegs to (ocr'ed) pdf is the only way i can see as far as retaining that information in the ebook.

the pdf retains full page pic, but a) isnt as lightweight a file, b) i was hoping for the header/footer to be 'out of the way of the text' while reading, and hoping to be able to 'summon' that information on command... pdfs wont allow that, the header/footer (sometimes obtrusively) is visible in between the pages as you read.

but at least its there, i guess. Hope someone has a better idea than pdf though.

Thing is, if ebooks ever hope to become useful in education market, they will have standardize a way of showing/not-showing headers, footers, and footnotes (and live-linking footnotes) -- and make that easy to produce (for instance, one click conversions from a word doc will be a *must*). I think we still have a loooong way to go unfortunately.

ebooker · 11-05-2010, 03:45 AM

i also wonder if anyone has experimented with "image over text" and "text over image" pdf's, if they work well on the sony reader...

the advantage of those pdfs is that you always have the original page right there as a pic, but the text should still 'reflow' nicely as well. In theory anyway.

I'd hate to spend $200 bucks on the pro version of abbyy to find out... but hoping someone out there has already attempted this...

11-05-2010, 12:20 AM	#1
ebooker Banned Posts: 140 Karma: 16076 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Device: sony prs-650!	question on dragging word docs into sony Ok, so i'm experimenting a bit with dragging word docs into the sony reader. The text appears fine, and as I understand it, the sony reader merely converts them into RTF. My question is: what happens to headers and footers in a word document? I dont mean footnotes; i mean title/author/page information when they appear in headers and footers at top or bottom of a word document page (just like in a book page). Do headers and footers vanish in the conversion to rtf? (It appears so, but i just wanted to verify). Also: if they vanish on the reader: is there some other way to get a word doc that has headers and footers to retain those when viewing on the sony? Pdf format (requiring tiresome zooming)? What i'd ideally like to see, is changing the "page mode" view on the sony to 'margin cut' to read just the text (ie, to NOT display header/footer); and when I need to see header/footer/original page number, to then change view to "original page" on the sony to SEE the header/footer. I suppose thats asking too much for now? ... Thanks for any help or thoughts...

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11-05-2010, 12:28 AM	#2
doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	Huh. I never noticed that my headers weren't being kept. To rule out one tool, I used Atlantis to create an EPUB from a DOC that has a header, and Atlantis also created the EPUB without the headers. Just an FYI. I hope someone with the answer will show up soon.

11-05-2010, 01:24 AM	#3
ebooker Banned Posts: 140 Karma: 16076 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Device: sony prs-650!	most of the discussion out there on this topic is about how to eliminate the header/footer (most people want to just read the text). However that wont work for me most of the time -- i'm digitizing schoolbooks and i need the original page number information contained in the headers or footers. I need to be able to see that in my ebook. For now, converting my jpegs to (ocr'ed) pdf is the only way i can see as far as retaining that information in the ebook. the pdf retains full page pic, but a) isnt as lightweight a file, b) i was hoping for the header/footer to be 'out of the way of the text' while reading, and hoping to be able to 'summon' that information on command... pdfs wont allow that, the header/footer (sometimes obtrusively) is visible in between the pages as you read. but at least its there, i guess. Hope someone has a better idea than pdf though. Thing is, if ebooks ever hope to become useful in education market, they will have standardize a way of showing/not-showing headers, footers, and footnotes (and live-linking footnotes) -- and make that easy to produce (for instance, one click conversions from a word doc will be a must). I think we still have a loooong way to go unfortunately.

11-05-2010, 03:45 AM	#4
ebooker Banned Posts: 140 Karma: 16076 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Device: sony prs-650!	i also wonder if anyone has experimented with "image over text" and "text over image" pdf's, if they work well on the sony reader... the advantage of those pdfs is that you always have the original page right there as a pic, but the text should still 'reflow' nicely as well. In theory anyway. I'd hate to spend $200 bucks on the pro version of abbyy to find out... but hoping someone out there has already attempted this...

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