[Closed] Calibre 4 Ebook Reader -- Don't Show "Next," "Previous" Triangles

nkormanik · 10-04-2019, 02:14 AM

Please keep the screen as clean and uncluttered as possible. No need for those added triangles to get to next and previous pages.

Thanks!

Nicholas Kormanik

kovidgoyal · 10-04-2019, 02:20 AM

The triangles only show up if you mouse over the margins and they are there so people know you can click on the margins to turn pages.

nkormanik · 10-04-2019, 03:47 AM

But the margins are huge.

The triangles are definitely not needed.

Even for a 1st Grader.

At least allow for option to hide them.

Distraction and clutter.

kovidgoyal · 10-04-2019, 03:53 AM

The margins are configurable to whatever you want them to be, the default IIRC is a pretty modest 20px. And dont make the mistake of assuming that just because something is obvious for you, it is obvious for everyone.

nkormanik · 10-04-2019, 04:36 AM

Come on.... Give the option of hiding those triangles.

Do yourself, and others, the favor.

nkormanik · 10-04-2019, 04:40 AM

Okay, so, exactly what do I need to put into the CSS style page to reduce those margins to, say, 1px?

theducks · 10-04-2019, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkormanik

Come on.... Give the option of hiding those triangles.

Do yourself, and others, the favor.

Be careful. Your tone is bordering on a MR rule violation.

The Viewer has Preferences. In 4.x: hit Esc to see the Menu

nkormanik · 10-04-2019, 05:18 AM

Just a suggestion, that I, and surely others, would greatly appreciate.

As said by Kovid himself, an objective of the new e-Reader is to get rid of clutter and distraction.

BetterRed · 10-04-2019, 05:39 AM

calibre is open source, you can either create a private fork, or submit changes.

Have a look to see if the triangles are in the <install>\app\resources\images folder, if they are, then you could override them with transparent triangles in <config>\calibre\resources\images.

Otherwise set the left and right margins to a small number - like 1.

Or revert to 3.48 and Hide the controls - then you'll have a minimalist viewer, with no arrows and a scroll bar.

BR

Uncle Robin · 10-04-2019, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkormanik

Just a suggestion, that I, and surely others, would greatly appreciate.

As said by Kovid himself, an objective of the new e-Reader is to get rid of clutter and distraction.

Your earlier posts do NOT read like suggestions. They read like commands, orders. There is a very noticeable lack of words used in Standard English to identify suggestions or requests - words like "please" "would you consider" etc. A "suggestion" for you to consider, if you would be so kind, would be to consider being much more polite and respectful toward someone who has selflessly given so much of his time and energy to the community over so many years. Courtesy costs little, but can achieve much.

kovidgoyal · 10-04-2019, 06:16 AM

Considering that the triangles appear only when you actually hover over the margin, I am not really interested in an option to hide them. That said, I wont refuse a patch that adds one.

nkormanik · 10-04-2019, 06:55 AM

Please???

If you would be so continuingly kind. (I like that.)

Yes, fantastic program. Incredibly happy that Kovid and company have come out with version 4. Was anxiously awaiting the release. Really. Truly.

Fabulous.

Now..., if someone can write a quick patch to get rid of those triangles.... I ask with great humility, deference, respectfulness.

Only a kindly suggestion, mind you.

C-novice · 10-05-2019, 11:50 AM

I think the 'triangles' are not an issue at all. Unless someone forever kept the mouse hovering at the edge of the page.

Who would really do that during the entirety of reading a page or a book?

DNSB · 10-06-2019, 01:35 PM

Since some folks seem to find the triangles very annoying, I tried setting the margins to 5/5/5/5 pixels to minimize "wasted space". I've attached an image of the triangle when I hovered on the right margin.

BetterRed · 10-06-2019, 06:35 PM

If Preferences>Page layout->Max Width could be set as a percentage (e.g. 90%), and Left/Right margins were set to 1, then one would get visual margins without the arrows.

I'm not sure that configuring max width and height in pixels makes sense on a variable size desktop viewer.

BR

10-04-2019, 02:14 AM	#1
nkormanik Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Device: DavidAcisAAJ	[Closed] Calibre 4 Ebook Reader -- Don't Show "Next," "Previous" Triangles Please keep the screen as clean and uncluttered as possible. No need for those added triangles to get to next and previous pages. Thanks! Nicholas Kormanik

10-06-2019, 01:35 PM	#14
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 36,252 Karma: 145735552 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Since some folks seem to find the triangles very annoying, I tried setting the margins to 5/5/5/5 pixels to minimize "wasted space". I've attached an image of the triangle when I hovered on the right margin. Attached Thumbnails

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10-04-2019, 02:20 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,963 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The triangles only show up if you mouse over the margins and they are there so people know you can click on the margins to turn pages.

10-04-2019, 03:47 AM	#3
nkormanik Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Device: DavidAcisAAJ	But the margins are huge. The triangles are definitely not needed. Even for a 1st Grader. At least allow for option to hide them. Distraction and clutter.

10-04-2019, 03:53 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,963 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The margins are configurable to whatever you want them to be, the default IIRC is a pretty modest 20px. And dont make the mistake of assuming that just because something is obvious for you, it is obvious for everyone.

10-04-2019, 04:36 AM	#5
nkormanik Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Device: DavidAcisAAJ	Come on.... Give the option of hiding those triangles. Do yourself, and others, the favor.

10-04-2019, 04:40 AM	#6
nkormanik Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Device: DavidAcisAAJ	Okay, so, exactly what do I need to put into the CSS style page to reduce those margins to, say, 1px?

10-04-2019, 05:18 AM	#8
nkormanik Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Device: DavidAcisAAJ	Just a suggestion, that I, and surely others, would greatly appreciate. As said by Kovid himself, an objective of the new e-Reader is to get rid of clutter and distraction.

10-04-2019, 05:39 AM	#9
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,644 Karma: 26960534 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	calibre is open source, you can either create a private fork, or submit changes. Have a look to see if the triangles are in the <install>\app\resources\images folder, if they are, then you could override them with transparent triangles in <config>\calibre\resources\images. Otherwise set the left and right margins to a small number - like 1. Or revert to 3.48 and Hide the controls - then you'll have a minimalist viewer, with no arrows and a scroll bar. BR

10-04-2019, 06:16 AM	#11
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,963 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Considering that the triangles appear only when you actually hover over the margin, I am not really interested in an option to hide them. That said, I wont refuse a patch that adds one.

10-04-2019, 06:55 AM	#12
nkormanik Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Device: DavidAcisAAJ	Please??? If you would be so continuingly kind. (I like that.) Yes, fantastic program. Incredibly happy that Kovid and company have come out with version 4. Was anxiously awaiting the release. Really. Truly. Fabulous. Now..., if someone can write a quick patch to get rid of those triangles.... I ask with great humility, deference, respectfulness. Only a kindly suggestion, mind you.

10-05-2019, 11:50 AM	#13
C-novice ReadingZealot Posts: 164 Karma: 11818 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: kobo ARC, Samsung Tab4	I think the 'triangles' are not an issue at all. Unless someone forever kept the mouse hovering at the edge of the page. Who would really do that during the entirety of reading a page or a book?

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10-06-2019, 06:35 PM	#15
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,644 Karma: 26960534 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	If Preferences>Page layout->Max Width could be set as a percentage (e.g. 90%), and Left/Right margins were set to 1, then one would get visual margins without the arrows. I'm not sure that configuring max width and height in pixels makes sense on a variable size desktop viewer. BR