Announced: reMarkable Paper Pro (color)

[JSWolf]

In E Ink Gallery 3, the black and white update time had been improved to 350 milliseconds (ms), the fastest color color mode is 500 ms, standard color mode is 750-1000 ms and best color is achieved at 1500 ms.

Given that 1 second is 1000 ms, this may actually be pretty good.

[rantanplan]

I agree, it's not as fast as Kaleido, but for a device that is mostly a note-taking device, that's alright. Also, there was a mention that reaction time for the stylus is like 12ms, which is outstanding.

[JSWolf]

This video shows the screen in use and it's quite fast.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by rantanplan

I agree, it's not as fast as Kaleido, but for a device that is mostly a note-taking device, that's alright. Also, there was a mention that reaction time for the stylus is like 12ms, which is outstanding.

I think you'll notice in the second video that the display is actually quite fast.

Kaleido is dead.

[JSWolf]

One more video showing page turns even better as well as what comics looks like on the screen.

[John F]

Jon, what do you think of the front light?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

In E Ink Gallery 3, the black and white update time had been improved to 350 milliseconds (ms), the fastest color color mode is 500 ms, standard color mode is 750-1000 ms and best color is achieved at 1500 ms.

Given that 1 second is 1000 ms, this may actually be pretty good.

Those specs are for the Gallery 3 panels. The reports (rumours...) about the 2024 release of Gallery seem to indicate that those specs have been improved on. The Gallery 3 display with those refresh speeds was used in the Bigme Galy so take a look at those reviews.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by apastuszak

Well the site says it has 64 GB of internal storage and it is now front lit. So I think it will do OK for ereading.

If you are OK with reading all PDF all the time.

[John F]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Those specs are for the Gallery 3 panels. The reports (rumours...) about the 2024 release of Gallery seem to indicate that those specs have been improved on. The Gallery 3 display with those refresh speeds was used in the Bigme Galy so take a look at those reviews.

Looking at the video in post #5, it looks like page turns are ~2 seconds?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

If you are OK with reading all PDF all the time.

Remarkable will also read ePub format ebooks but the one time I played with the Remarkable 2 and ePub, it's CSS handling had very iffy. The owner was not certain if it was actually rendering the ePub or if it was converted to PDF at some point. I'm attaching two images from a Reddit post showing Books vs. Remarkable for ePub renderering. And yes, Remarkable seems to prefer left justified even when the CSS specifies text-align: justify.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Remarkable will also read ePub format ebooks

IMO converting EPUB to PDF does not count as "read EPUB format".

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

If you are OK with reading all PDF all the time.

One of the videos did mention ePub. Does it handle ePub or is the ePub converted to PDF?

[DNSB]

As far as I can tell from Remarkable's web page and some discussions elsewhere, the current Remarkable firmware renders ePub directly without the conversion to PDF that the original Remarkable firmware required. OTOH, I don't own a Remarkable and have exactly one acquaintance who does so have not tested this hands on. That the rendering is not very good is a different issue.

[dmalinovsky]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Those specs are for the Gallery 3 panels. The reports (rumours...) about the 2024 release of Gallery seem to indicate that those specs have been improved on. The Gallery 3 display with those refresh speeds was used in the Bigme Galy so take a look at those reviews.

In July E Ink posted the press release with the title "E Ink and Himax Unveil Advanced Color ePaper Timing Controller ASIC T2000". It specifically says:

In addition to delivering high-quality image colors, the T2000 processes color rendering more than ten times faster compared to the previous generation.

Of course, it doesn't mean that the page refresh time will be 10 times better, but the processing part will improve — so only future devices will tell the difference.

It seems unlikely that Remarkable had time to use this controller, but this gives us some hope to see better Gallery 3 based devices.

Also, E Ink's 2023 report says:

In 2024, we will provide an upgraded version of the 8-inch advanced color ePaper (Gallery™ 3), aiming to deliver optimized performance and enhanced visual experience for customers.

So fingers crossed...

[JSWolf]

That would be nice if Kobo created an 8" Reader with the new Gallery 3. That's one I might buy as it should not be so dark and the colors will be much better and no speckles.