The Joys of AI

DNSB · 08-18-2023, 11:20 PM

Ran into this item on MSN. Evidently Microsoft did an AI written travel guide which referred to the Ottawa Food Bank as the #3 must see attraction in Ottawa complete with an totally sensitive “Consider going into it on an empty stomach.”

See Microsoft's AI-written travel guide calls Ottawa Food Bank a 'beautiful tourist attraction'

Image of the original article on Imgpur: https://imgur.com/a/fg8mxgy

hildea · 08-25-2023, 02:16 AM

Ouch.

Even worse: There are apparently AI written books about mushroom foraging (ie. how to recognize mushrooms which are safe to eat). Those can kill people.

slm · 08-26-2023, 09:28 PM

Microsoft says the mistakes was the fault of the human curator
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/17/2...st-destination

Quoth · 08-30-2023, 02:15 PM

I'm just the messenger...

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-related-to-ai

and
AI generated books on foraging for mushrooms.
https://historians.social/@dbellingr...79319319305464

AI Translations?
Might help for a first draft, to your own language, if you know the source language well enough.
https://historians.social/@dbellingr...78855068756484

slm · 08-30-2023, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

I'm just the messenger...

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-related-to-ai

and
AI generated books on foraging for mushrooms.
https://historians.social/@dbellingr...79319319305464

AI Translations?
Might help for a first draft, to your own language, if you know the source language well enough.
https://historians.social/@dbellingr...78855068756484

I was pleasantly surprised by the skill of an automatic translation recently. Ben Aaronovich wrote a novella "Winter's Gifts" that was not released quickly in the US. The German version was available at Amazon. I bought it and used the Calibre "Translate Book" plug-in to get a version in English.

It was quite readable. There were some clear errors, but for the most part it did the job quite well.

I may be less happy when I read the original version, which is now available on Amazon.

Quoth · 08-30-2023, 03:03 PM

How do you know that the translation didn't use a "pirated" copy?
The Calibre "Translate book" plug-in is problem. I'd never install it.

slm · 08-30-2023, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

How do you know that the translation didn't use a "pirated" copy?
The Calibre "Translate book" plug-in is problem. I'd never install it.

I haven't had such a good laugh in a long time.

The program submits the pages to the translation engine of your choice (Google translate by default). It even permits you to send to professional engines if you have a subscription.

If you haul out your tinfoil hat and install it, you can choose the engine you prefer in "Settings".

Quoth · 08-30-2023, 04:58 PM

You know how Google Translate works? Same material in different languages to build a giant Rosetta stone. The "pirated" is in inverted commas. They are the biggest legal "pirates" of books on the planet and won a court case on scanning copyright works without licence by a technicality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Books
This is kind and doesn't mention the other ways that Google gets texts.
Google is the worst choice for that plugin. I'm happy to use online free for a phrase or two, but I'd prefer to pay a human for a translation. So while The Golem is free in German, I bought a decent English translation.

I don't go for conspiracy theories, but there is a reason why Google tools are "free".

This is offered free to websites and it's abusive and privacy busting. It's a valuable resource for Google.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA

AI is ultimately a lie. It's databases scraped from human content for free.

Edit: Update 2023-09-01
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ng-its-content
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-written-by-ai

andyh2000 · 09-04-2023, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

...
AI is ultimately a lie. It's databases scraped from human content for free.
...

Not this again. I assume you must have learnt everything you know without reading a single book, watching a single video, listening to a single other person speak. No? Then your intelligence is a lie, just scraped from other people's content.

Andrew

Quoth · 09-04-2023, 05:26 PM

ChatGPT is more a toy than any use for search.

Actually it's useless as a search tool:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...e-elif-batuman

Download the books(s) and use Calibre's Full Text Search.

08-18-2023, 11:20 PM	#1
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 40,599 Karma: 157444382 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	The Joys of AI Ran into this item on MSN. Evidently Microsoft did an AI written travel guide which referred to the Ottawa Food Bank as the #3 must see attraction in Ottawa complete with an totally sensitive “Consider going into it on an empty stomach.” See Microsoft's AI-written travel guide calls Ottawa Food Bank a 'beautiful tourist attraction' Image of the original article on Imgpur: https://imgur.com/a/fg8mxgy

08-30-2023, 04:58 PM	#8
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,378 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	You know how Google Translate works? Same material in different languages to build a giant Rosetta stone. The "pirated" is in inverted commas. They are the biggest legal "pirates" of books on the planet and won a court case on scanning copyright works without licence by a technicality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Books This is kind and doesn't mention the other ways that Google gets texts. Google is the worst choice for that plugin. I'm happy to use online free for a phrase or two, but I'd prefer to pay a human for a translation. So while The Golem is free in German, I bought a decent English translation. I don't go for conspiracy theories, but there is a reason why Google tools are "free". This is offered free to websites and it's abusive and privacy busting. It's a valuable resource for Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA AI is ultimately a lie. It's databases scraped from human content for free. Edit: Update 2023-09-01 https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ng-its-content https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-written-by-ai Last edited by Quoth; 09-01-2023 at 03:05 PM.

09-04-2023, 05:26 PM	#10
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,378 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	ChatGPT is more a toy than any use for search. Actually it's useless as a search tool: https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...e-elif-batuman Download the books(s) and use Calibre's Full Text Search. Last edited by Quoth; 09-05-2023 at 08:01 AM.

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08-30-2023, 02:15 PM	#4
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,378 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	I'm just the messenger... https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-related-to-ai and AI generated books on foraging for mushrooms. https://historians.social/@dbellingr...79319319305464 AI Translations? Might help for a first draft, to your own language, if you know the source language well enough. https://historians.social/@dbellingr...78855068756484

08-30-2023, 03:03 PM	#6
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,378 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	How do you know that the translation didn't use a "pirated" copy? The Calibre "Translate book" plug-in is problem. I'd never install it.