DRM pointless

Quoth · 01-06-2022, 04:48 AM

Real piracy of TV, Cinema, Books, music involves use of ARC, insider copies and analogue copies.
Even a paperback can be easily made into an ebook.
Music and video is even simpler. The copy doesn't need to originate inside the studio though often does. No point in delaying DVD, BD and streaming releases. Anything streamed is trivial to copy no matter what DRM or encryption is used.

DMCA and DRM should be illegal, they immorally take rights away from consumers and have never stopped real piracy.

One example, tip of the iceberg:

Quote:

Bernardini’s arrest may mark the start of the end of a mystery that has fascinated and appalled the literary world for five years, during which hundreds of unpublished manuscripts have been targeted.

From: https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ublished-books

They claim that in this case the books didn't appear online. A strange and hard to prove claim as all the authors mentioned have been pirated.

John F · 01-06-2022, 06:54 AM

I don't think your stance on DRM qualifies as "News".

issybird · 01-06-2022, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

immorally

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

ZodWallop · 01-06-2022, 12:58 PM

This should be in general discussion, rather than news. But anyway, I do agree with you.

I think the challenge of DRM causes people to break it and share.

Look at what happened to music piracy once Apple, Amazon, Google, etc started selling DRM-free MP3s that could be freely used anywhere by their purchasers* Sure, you can still pirate music. But who does?

I think the ebook world would be better off if books were sold as DRM-free ePubs available from multiple sources and ereaders were less rigorously tied to their particular store.

*Before you post your "Well, actually, MP3s are watermarked..." post, just don't. It's a bunch of blah, blah, blah. The point remains the same.

ottdmk · 01-08-2022, 08:51 PM

About the only legitimate use of DRM I can think of is for library loans. Other than that, it should die in a fire.

Quoth · 01-09-2022, 08:05 AM

Update
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ove-of-reading

I have some scepticism about some claims in the original story.

Currently libraries do need DRM because of how the titles are licensed to them. The strange way that Publishers & Libraries interact for electronic media, which varies by country, is certainly a topic for discussion on another thread.

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01-06-2022, 06:54 AM	#2
John F Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,534 Karma: 67891011 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Glo HD	I don't think your stance on DRM qualifies as "News".

01-06-2022, 12:58 PM	#4
ZodWallop Gentleman and scholar Posts: 11,335 Karma: 110455811 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3	This should be in general discussion, rather than news. But anyway, I do agree with you. I think the challenge of DRM causes people to break it and share. Look at what happened to music piracy once Apple, Amazon, Google, etc started selling DRM-free MP3s that could be freely used anywhere by their purchasers* Sure, you can still pirate music. But who does? I think the ebook world would be better off if books were sold as DRM-free ePubs available from multiple sources and ereaders were less rigorously tied to their particular store. *Before you post your "Well, actually, MP3s are watermarked..." post, just don't. It's a bunch of blah, blah, blah. The point remains the same.

01-08-2022, 08:51 PM	#5
ottdmk Wizard Posts: 1,207 Karma: 3765734 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Device: Kobo Libra 2, Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus, Lenovo Tab M8 HD	About the only legitimate use of DRM I can think of is for library loans. Other than that, it should die in a fire.

01-09-2022, 08:05 AM	#6
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,342 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Update https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ove-of-reading I have some scepticism about some claims in the original story. Currently libraries do need DRM because of how the titles are licensed to them. The strange way that Publishers & Libraries interact for electronic media, which varies by country, is certainly a topic for discussion on another thread.