Just Installed Debian on my K3G - What Can I do Now?

jmseight · 04-05-2012, 08:49 PM

Hi,

I just installed Debian on my K3G - using up 500MB of space.

What can I do now with Debian that I was not able to do with just Jailbreak?

Thanks,
James

dasmoover · 04-05-2012, 09:24 PM

apt-get

geekmaster · 04-05-2012, 11:56 PM

With apt-get, just installing a SMALL portion of the debian repository, I quickly filled up my 2GB image file. You can start with sudo apt-get bsdgames. It even has an ncurses-based tetris, besides the old "teletype" classics trek and adventure (i.e. colossal cave)

You can also add other package repositories to apt-get, and you can use ipkg or opkg to install smaller packages from the optware repositories.

I even installed qemu, and ran MS-DOS inside it using ncurses text mode, but there were some issues with eink and white-on-black characters. You needed to change the screen colors in DOS to make it usable.

And you can install gcc and the other full build utilities. Whatever you want, basically...

jmseight · 04-06-2012, 03:06 AM

Thanks for the tip.

Apparently the Debian I installed does not have sudo. It does not even have ps or vi.

Would you please tell me how do I get the additional commands on Debian?

Thanks,
James

hostar · 04-06-2012, 03:53 AM

Look here:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118472

geekmaster · 04-06-2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmseight

Thanks for the tip.

Apparently the Debian I installed does not have sudo. It does not even have ps or vi.

Would you please tell me how do I get the additional commands on Debian?

Thanks,
James

Actually, as long as you SSH into the root account, you do not need sudo. That just executes a command as root. You can leave it off in the kindle...

jmseight · 04-07-2012, 12:03 AM

Hi,

Optware will need another 250MB. Also, the instruction is asking for another partition and seems to be working with kindle OS, not Debian.

Is there a package that I can download to get full set of commands (like vi, ps, etc) on the Debian install - and hopefully will not take 250MB?

Thanks,
James

geekmaster · 04-07-2012, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmseight

Hi,

Optware will need another 250MB. Also, the instruction is asking for another partition and seems to be working with kindle OS, not Debian.

Is there a package that I can download to get full set of commands (like vi, ps, etc) on the Debian install - and hopefully will not take 250MB?

Thanks,
James

You can just add the busybox commands from the main and/or diags partitions to the search path and use them. Or you can install another busybox. Those tend to be a lot smaller than the individual commands that they replace.

You can mount diags like this:

mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt/mmc

And then use commands in /mnt/mmc/bin ...

Busybox commands can be executed with named symlinks to busybox, using the command name as the first parameter, such as:

busybox dd if= ...

instead of

dd if= ...

smartgenes · 07-20-2013, 05:31 PM

I have Debian on K3, and once mounted I get the message:

bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)

and then apt-get install whatever fails with similar messages about the locale. What is this locale business, and how do I resolve it?

I wondered if apt-get could be used directly from the Kindle or SSH, or if I was getting muddled because it is an image file that somebody made of Debian.. So I wondered how I can still install with apt-get even though it is a mounted image?

I tried such things as:
dpkg --configure -a
apt-get install dialog locales

but that didn't seem to help.
Also is the repository I'm using, http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable InRelease ok?

It gets so far with packages then reminds me of the locales problem.

ixtab · 07-21-2013, 05:16 AM

LMGTFY

smartgenes · 07-21-2013, 09:51 AM

Didn't help much.

root@kindle:/etc/default# export LC_ALL=en_US
bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US)

Editing the contents of etc/locale or etc/environment
didn't change anything either...

Installations usually result in something like the following:

root@kindle:/etc/default# apt-get install libc-bin

Spoiler:

sources.list.d in etc/apt is empty, should I add lenny sources.. somehow that doesn't seem like the problem..

knc1 · 07-21-2013, 10:11 AM

You have more than one problem there.

Give us some background please.

You mentioned "mounting the image file" - -
Tell us which image file you are using, either a "home brew" or the link to the one you started with.

How are you initializing the mounted image file?
Are you using a script? A "home brew" one or the link to the one you are using.

What machine and OS are you mounting this image file on?

PS: Why in the world did you think that libc-bin wasn't installed?

hawhill · 07-22-2013, 03:38 AM

Missing locales usually only lead to non-fatal warnings. That's also the case here. As knc1 said, you've got other problems.

#1: /dev/pts isn't mounted (that would be within the chroot). That should probably also be non-fatal. For what you're doing now, that is. You'll need it for other things that actually use virtual terminals.

#2: Debian unstable (Sid) is NOT suited for your Kindle (or any Kindle, that is). As the error messages clearly tell, the libc used in newer Debians depends on a more current kernel version. As you're pretty much left with only one choice, which is lab126's shipped kernel, you're left with only older Debian versions.

smartgenes · 07-22-2013, 06:50 AM

Is there a working pre-built image somewhere? I assume Debian has to be 2.6.26 or earlier then, so Debian "potato"?

knc1 · 07-22-2013, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartgenes

Is there a working pre-built image somewhere? I assume Debian has to be 2.6.26 or earlier then, so Debian "potato"?

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...87&postcount=9
But read the entire thread.

04-05-2012, 11:56 PM	#3
geekmaster Carpe diem, c'est la vie. Posts: 6,433 Karma: 10773668 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Multiverse 6627A Device: K1 to PW3	With apt-get, just installing a SMALL portion of the debian repository, I quickly filled up my 2GB image file. You can start with sudo apt-get bsdgames. It even has an ncurses-based tetris, besides the old "teletype" classics trek and adventure (i.e. colossal cave) You can also add other package repositories to apt-get, and you can use ipkg or opkg to install smaller packages from the optware repositories. I even installed qemu, and ran MS-DOS inside it using ncurses text mode, but there were some issues with eink and white-on-black characters. You needed to change the screen colors in DOS to make it usable. And you can install gcc and the other full build utilities. Whatever you want, basically... Last edited by geekmaster; 04-06-2012 at 12:03 AM.

07-21-2013, 09:51 AM	#11
smartgenes Member Posts: 14 Karma: 6494 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle 3	goggling google Didn't help much. root@kindle:/etc/default# export LC_ALL=en_US bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US) Editing the contents of etc/locale or etc/environment didn't change anything either... Installations usually result in something like the following: root@kindle:/etc/default# apt-get install libc-bin Spoiler: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libattr1 libc6 libcap2 Suggested packages: glibc-doc locales The following NEW packages will be installed: libcap2 The following packages will be upgraded: libattr1 libc-bin libc6 3 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 83 not upgraded. Need to get 1226 kB/5474 kB of archives. After this operation, 595 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libc-bin armel 2.17-7 [1226 kB] Fetched 1226 kB in 16s (73.2 kB/s) perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_ALL = "en_US", LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) (Reading database ... 7466 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libattr1 1:2.4.44-2 (using .../libattr1_1%3a2.4.47-1_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libattr1 ... Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) Setting up libattr1 (1:2.4.47-1) ... Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) Selecting previously deselected package libcap2. (Reading database ... 7467 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libcap2 (from .../libcap2_1%3a2.22-1.2_armel.deb) ... Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) Setting up libcap2 (1:2.22-1.2) ... Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) (Reading database ... 7473 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libc6 2.13-4 (using .../libc6_2.17-7_armel.deb) ... Checking for services that may need to be restarted... Checking init scripts... WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 2.6.32 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc. The installation of a 2.6 kernel _could_ ask you to install a new libc first, this is NOT a bug, and should NOT be reported. In that case, please add lenny sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: apt-get install -t lenny linux-image-2.6 Then reboot into this new kernel, and proceed with your upgrade dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.17-7_armel.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.17-7_armel.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root@kindle:/etc/default# apt-get install --reinstall locales Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libc6 Suggested packages: glibc-doc The following NEW packages will be installed: locales The following packages will be upgraded: libc6 1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 84 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/8063 kB of archives. After this operation, 15.3 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_ALL = "en_US", LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) (Reading database ... 7473 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libc6 2.13-4 (using .../libc6_2.17-7_armel.deb) ... Checking for services that may need to be restarted... Checking init scripts... WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 2.6.32 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc. The installation of a 2.6 kernel _could_ ask you to install a new libc first, this is NOT a bug, and should NOT be reported. In that case, please add lenny sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: apt-get install -t lenny linux-image-2.6 Then reboot into this new kernel, and proceed with your upgrade dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.17-7_armel.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.17-7_armel.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) sources.list.d in etc/apt is empty, should I add lenny sources.. somehow that doesn't seem like the problem..

07-22-2013, 06:50 AM	#14
smartgenes Member Posts: 14 Karma: 6494 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle 3	deb Is there a working pre-built image somewhere? I assume Debian has to be 2.6.26 or earlier then, so Debian "potato"?

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04-05-2012, 08:49 PM	#1
jmseight Zealot Posts: 130 Karma: 10000 Join Date: Mar 2012 Device: Kindle 3G, Kindle Touch 3G, iRiver Story HD, Sony Reader	Just Installed Debian on my K3G - What Can I do Now? Hi, I just installed Debian on my K3G - using up 500MB of space. What can I do now with Debian that I was not able to do with just Jailbreak? Thanks, James

04-05-2012, 09:24 PM	#2
dasmoover Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 26720 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WIFI	apt-get

04-06-2012, 03:06 AM	#4
jmseight Zealot Posts: 130 Karma: 10000 Join Date: Mar 2012 Device: Kindle 3G, Kindle Touch 3G, iRiver Story HD, Sony Reader	Thanks for the tip. Apparently the Debian I installed does not have sudo. It does not even have ps or vi. Would you please tell me how do I get the additional commands on Debian? Thanks, James

04-06-2012, 03:53 AM	#5
hostar Zealot Posts: 138 Karma: 12324 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CZ Device: Kindle 4 non-touch	Look here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118472

04-07-2012, 12:03 AM	#7
jmseight Zealot Posts: 130 Karma: 10000 Join Date: Mar 2012 Device: Kindle 3G, Kindle Touch 3G, iRiver Story HD, Sony Reader	Hi, Optware will need another 250MB. Also, the instruction is asking for another partition and seems to be working with kindle OS, not Debian. Is there a package that I can download to get full set of commands (like vi, ps, etc) on the Debian install - and hopefully will not take 250MB? Thanks, James

07-20-2013, 05:31 PM	#9
smartgenes Member Posts: 14 Karma: 6494 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle 3	I have Debian on K3, and once mounted I get the message: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8) and then apt-get install whatever fails with similar messages about the locale. What is this locale business, and how do I resolve it? I wondered if apt-get could be used directly from the Kindle or SSH, or if I was getting muddled because it is an image file that somebody made of Debian.. So I wondered how I can still install with apt-get even though it is a mounted image? I tried such things as: dpkg --configure -a apt-get install dialog locales but that didn't seem to help. Also is the repository I'm using, http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable InRelease ok? It gets so far with packages then reminds me of the locales problem.

07-21-2013, 05:16 AM	#10
ixtab (offline) Posts: 2,907 Karma: 6736094 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: K3, K4, K5, KPW, KPW2	LMGTFY

07-21-2013, 10:11 AM	#12
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	You have more than one problem there. Give us some background please. You mentioned "mounting the image file" - - Tell us which image file you are using, either a "home brew" or the link to the one you started with. How are you initializing the mounted image file? Are you using a script? A "home brew" one or the link to the one you are using. What machine and OS are you mounting this image file on? PS: Why in the world did you think that libc-bin wasn't installed?

07-22-2013, 03:38 AM	#13
hawhill Wizard Posts: 1,379 Karma: 2155307 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Goettingen, Germany Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Mini	Missing locales usually only lead to non-fatal warnings. That's also the case here. As knc1 said, you've got other problems. #1: /dev/pts isn't mounted (that would be within the chroot). That should probably also be non-fatal. For what you're doing now, that is. You'll need it for other things that actually use virtual terminals. #2: Debian unstable (Sid) is NOT suited for your Kindle (or any Kindle, that is). As the error messages clearly tell, the libc used in newer Debians depends on a more current kernel version. As you're pretty much left with only one choice, which is lab126's shipped kernel, you're left with only older Debian versions.