iSilo and Russian

BasilC · 03-09-2003, 07:25 PM

I've been trying to convert Russian websites and files to iSilo, but I just get gobbledegook on the PDA (Sony HiRes). I use Interpilot 2.5 as a Russian localizer, it works well with other applications. Is there a trick I'm missing?

radleyp · 03-10-2003, 11:01 AM

Are you saying that you cannot get the BBC Russian website? I've gotten that in iSilo, HandStory and Plucker. I use Piloc, but I doubt that makes any difference. PDR

BasilC · 03-10-2003, 06:34 PM

The problem was with a txt file that I had downloaded and stored on my computer. It transferred across to the Clie, but wasn't convertible into Cyrillic script. I've just tried downloading a Russian webpage direct to iSilo and it worked perfectly. Perhaps it can only handle html?

As regards HandStory, I haven't tried web clipping, just copying Russian text by right clicking. The text in the box is not in Cyrillic, so I never bothered actually moving it to the pda. Perhaps it would become readable once it's transferred. I'll give it a try.

BasilC · 03-10-2003, 07:30 PM

I've now tried, and succeeded, in downloading an entire novel by Dostoyevsky. It works fine in iSilo. The funny thing is that the file that I could't read yesterday is now OK. Strange! I must say I'm impressed by iSilo, but still think that both HandStory and Plucker have their strengths too, and will be using all three (and AvantGo).

radleyp · 03-11-2003, 11:30 AM

I'm glad it worked. I too sometimes have trouble. I took some Russian texts in .txt format off the Victor Pelevin site and converted them in isilo, but not by clipping them, but by copying them as text, saving them in My Documents, then loading them into iSilo and converting. It does work.

I cannot figure out how to use all these web readers together. I wind up forgetting why I am using one rather than the other. How do you keep them straight?

Cheers, PDR

radleyp · 03-11-2003, 11:32 AM

Forgot to ask: why on earth do you continue to use AvantGo? To me it's completely useless, all the more so because I cannot use files on the MS. PDR

BasilC · 03-11-2003, 02:29 PM

I do sometimes get confused about the different web readers, but I like to use them all l because:

a) HandStory is great for on-the-fly work and brilliant for images (in my case, mainly maps)

Plucker lets you produce files that can be launched from the launcher

c) iSilo is the only one that can handle tables, though not very satisfactorily - I find it's very slow to move around within the table. I'm only just getting to know iSilo and may make more use of it. Certainly, the ability to select and copy text is useful, and the autoscroll is pretty good.

One advantage of using more than one web reader is that you can switch between different documents simply by switching between the different applications.

As regards AvantGo, I guess you're right. I've just been too lazy to convert the sites to Plucker or iSilo, and like the convenence of the automatic update on each hot sync, but the application does take up rather a lot of RAM, so I'll probably ditch it soon.

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03-09-2003, 07:25 PM	#1
BasilC Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 60 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London England Device: Palm Tungsten T3	I've been trying to convert Russian websites and files to iSilo, but I just get gobbledegook on the PDA (Sony HiRes). I use Interpilot 2.5 as a Russian localizer, it works well with other applications. Is there a trick I'm missing?

03-10-2003, 11:01 AM	#2
radleyp Evangelist Posts: 499 Karma: 20623 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Salem & NYC, NY Device: Kindle Global, iphone4, ipad	Are you saying that you cannot get the BBC Russian website? I've gotten that in iSilo, HandStory and Plucker. I use Piloc, but I doubt that makes any difference. PDR

03-10-2003, 06:34 PM	#3
BasilC Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 60 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London England Device: Palm Tungsten T3	The problem was with a txt file that I had downloaded and stored on my computer. It transferred across to the Clie, but wasn't convertible into Cyrillic script. I've just tried downloading a Russian webpage direct to iSilo and it worked perfectly. Perhaps it can only handle html? As regards HandStory, I haven't tried web clipping, just copying Russian text by right clicking. The text in the box is not in Cyrillic, so I never bothered actually moving it to the pda. Perhaps it would become readable once it's transferred. I'll give it a try.

03-10-2003, 07:30 PM	#4
BasilC Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 60 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London England Device: Palm Tungsten T3	I've now tried, and succeeded, in downloading an entire novel by Dostoyevsky. It works fine in iSilo. The funny thing is that the file that I could't read yesterday is now OK. Strange! I must say I'm impressed by iSilo, but still think that both HandStory and Plucker have their strengths too, and will be using all three (and AvantGo).

03-11-2003, 11:30 AM	#5
radleyp Evangelist Posts: 499 Karma: 20623 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Salem & NYC, NY Device: Kindle Global, iphone4, ipad	I'm glad it worked. I too sometimes have trouble. I took some Russian texts in .txt format off the Victor Pelevin site and converted them in isilo, but not by clipping them, but by copying them as text, saving them in My Documents, then loading them into iSilo and converting. It does work. I cannot figure out how to use all these web readers together. I wind up forgetting why I am using one rather than the other. How do you keep them straight? Cheers, PDR

03-11-2003, 11:32 AM	#6
radleyp Evangelist Posts: 499 Karma: 20623 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Salem & NYC, NY Device: Kindle Global, iphone4, ipad	Forgot to ask: why on earth do you continue to use AvantGo? To me it's completely useless, all the more so because I cannot use files on the MS. PDR

03-11-2003, 02:29 PM	#7
BasilC Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 60 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London England Device: Palm Tungsten T3	I do sometimes get confused about the different web readers, but I like to use them all l because: a) HandStory is great for on-the-fly work and brilliant for images (in my case, mainly maps) Plucker lets you produce files that can be launched from the launcher c) iSilo is the only one that can handle tables, though not very satisfactorily - I find it's very slow to move around within the table. I'm only just getting to know iSilo and may make more use of it. Certainly, the ability to select and copy text is useful, and the autoscroll is pretty good. One advantage of using more than one web reader is that you can switch between different documents simply by switching between the different applications. As regards AvantGo, I guess you're right. I've just been too lazy to convert the sites to Plucker or iSilo, and like the convenence of the automatic update on each hot sync, but the application does take up rather a lot of RAM, so I'll probably ditch it soon.