Difference between "Sending books to devices" and "Sharing over the net"

nano5 · 06-13-2019, 11:48 PM

I have a couple recent fetched weekly news in Calibre library, of the same publisher.

1. When sending via email to Kindle, the weekly news will list as separate issues on Kindle, with title and pubdate in place;

2. When download the same issues at local x.x.x.x:8080, the weekly news will merged under same title on Kindle;

Would you help explain the differences here, and how to get the same results as 2, i.e. weekly news merged under same title like a folder, when sending books via email?

kovidgoyal · 06-14-2019, 12:21 AM

when you email books to the kindle amazon reprocesses them, so that they are no longer recognized as periodicals. You need to use either the server or the USB cable to send downloaded news to theKindle.

nano5 · 06-14-2019, 12:51 AM

I see. Thanks

nano5 · 01-20-2020, 10:37 AM

After fetching news receipts, I normally convert them to azw3 format, and download the azw3 periodicals to Kindle via Calibre content server. While on Kindle, the book list display {Title} - {Author}, which would be better as {Title}-{Pubdate}.

Which setting in Preferences should I look into, "Sending book to device" or "Sharing over the net" seems not the right place.

Thanks!

theducks · 01-20-2020, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nano5

After fetching news receipts, I normally convert them to azw3 format, and download the azw3 periodicals to Kindle via Calibre content server. While on Kindle, the book list display {Title} - {Author}, which would be better as {Title}-{Pubdate}.

Which setting in Preferences should I look into, "Sending book to device" or "Sharing over the net" seems not the right place.

Thanks!

File names always need to be UNIQUE. pubdate helps break the tie
Title - Author would always overwrite or fail because it was a duplicate
BTW I would use the plugboard for Kindles
{Title}-{Pubdate} -> {Title}

nano5 · 01-20-2020, 07:48 PM

Try plugboard such as

Format=azw3
Device=content_server
Source template={title}-{pubdate}
Destination field={title}

The book list display on Kindle remain the same as {title}-{author}. and when change "Device" to "Kindle", Calibre will display error popup such as azw3 format not supported on Kindle.

Any further suggestion or comment? thanks.

theducks · 01-20-2020, 08:10 PM

content server says you are using a browser or CC to fetch from Calibres Content server. REALLY?

The standard device is (USB ) Kindle

nano5 · 01-20-2020, 10:09 PM

So far I have been trying the following configurations in Preference, in case of both "Share over the net" (local content server) and USB cable:

- Sending books to device;
- Metadata plugboard;
- Configure this device (when Kindle is plugged in)

by defining {author_sort}/{title} - {pubdate} as the save template.

In all scenarios,
- AZW3 will stick to {title}-{author} on Kindle book list,
- MOBI will always display {title}-{pubdate} as defined

So it seems to do with AZW3 format only, where Calibre's configuration will be missed.

kovidgoyal · 01-20-2020, 10:26 PM

calibre does not update metadata in joint format MOBI files (those containting both old mobi and kf8). So plugboards wont work with those.

nano5 · 01-20-2020, 10:36 PM

Not sure AZW3 is joint format - or is there place in Calibre to ensure that.

also MOBI works in my cases, to correctly display {title}-{pubdate} as defined.

nano5 · 01-21-2020, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

calibre does not update metadata in joint format MOBI files (those containting both old mobi and kf8). So plugboards wont work with those.

Thanks Kovid.

So would you suggest a way to get azw3/kf8 file on Kindle in defined metadata template such as: {author_sort}/{title} - {pubdate} ?

Appreciate the help!

kovidgoyal · 01-21-2020, 03:56 AM

if it is a pure kf8 file it will work, oterise use the kindlesplit plugin

nano5 · 01-21-2020, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

if it is a pure kf8 file it will work, oterise use the kindlesplit plugin

I fetch the news using Calibre default, then convert to azw3 file, how to ensure a pure kf8 after that?

By kindlesplit plugin do you mean Epubsplit?

Thanks!

kovidgoyal · 01-21-2020, 04:50 AM

news can only be read in mobi format. There is no point converting it to azw3. And no by KindleSplit I mean KindleSPlit.

nano5 · 01-21-2020, 05:23 AM

Reading MOBI on Kindle is limited to default font, and I'd like to use a custom font.

I find KindleUnpack plugin, and split azw3 and add only epub/kf8 only back to calibre. Yes, this way the plugboard metadata setting works when I connect Kindle by USB, but there are still issues left to figure out:

- {pubdate} only display month-year on Kindle, without date
- such plugboard setting not working for content_server yet, i.e. "Sharing over the net"

Would you kindly elaborate further? thanks.

06-13-2019, 11:48 PM	#1
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	Difference between "Sending books to devices" and "Sharing over the net" I have a couple recent fetched weekly news in Calibre library, of the same publisher. 1. When sending via email to Kindle, the weekly news will list as separate issues on Kindle, with title and pubdate in place; 2. When download the same issues at local x.x.x.x:8080, the weekly news will merged under same title on Kindle; Would you help explain the differences here, and how to get the same results as 2, i.e. weekly news merged under same title like a folder, when sending books via email?

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06-14-2019, 12:21 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,996 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	when you email books to the kindle amazon reprocesses them, so that they are no longer recognized as periodicals. You need to use either the server or the USB cable to send downloaded news to theKindle.

06-14-2019, 12:51 AM	#3
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	I see. Thanks

01-20-2020, 10:37 AM	#4
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	After fetching news receipts, I normally convert them to azw3 format, and download the azw3 periodicals to Kindle via Calibre content server. While on Kindle, the book list display {Title} - {Author}, which would be better as {Title}-{Pubdate}. Which setting in Preferences should I look into, "Sending book to device" or "Sharing over the net" seems not the right place. Thanks!

01-20-2020, 07:48 PM	#6
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	Try plugboard such as Format=azw3 Device=content_server Source template={title}-{pubdate} Destination field={title} The book list display on Kindle remain the same as {title}-{author}. and when change "Device" to "Kindle", Calibre will display error popup such as azw3 format not supported on Kindle. Any further suggestion or comment? thanks.

01-20-2020, 08:10 PM	#7
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,950 Karma: 55705602 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	content server says you are using a browser or CC to fetch from Calibres Content server. REALLY? The standard device is (USB ) Kindle

01-20-2020, 10:09 PM	#8
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	So far I have been trying the following configurations in Preference, in case of both "Share over the net" (local content server) and USB cable: - Sending books to device; - Metadata plugboard; - Configure this device (when Kindle is plugged in) by defining {author_sort}/{title} - {pubdate} as the save template. In all scenarios, - AZW3 will stick to {title}-{author} on Kindle book list, - MOBI will always display {title}-{pubdate} as defined So it seems to do with AZW3 format only, where Calibre's configuration will be missed.

01-20-2020, 10:26 PM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,996 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	calibre does not update metadata in joint format MOBI files (those containting both old mobi and kf8). So plugboards wont work with those.

01-20-2020, 10:36 PM	#10
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	Not sure AZW3 is joint format - or is there place in Calibre to ensure that. also MOBI works in my cases, to correctly display {title}-{pubdate} as defined.

01-21-2020, 03:56 AM	#12
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,996 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	if it is a pure kf8 file it will work, oterise use the kindlesplit plugin

01-21-2020, 04:50 AM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,996 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	news can only be read in mobi format. There is no point converting it to azw3. And no by KindleSplit I mean KindleSPlit.

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01-21-2020, 05:23 AM	#15
nano5 Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 2136220 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle	Reading MOBI on Kindle is limited to default font, and I'd like to use a custom font. I find KindleUnpack plugin, and split azw3 and add only epub/kf8 only back to calibre. Yes, this way the plugboard metadata setting works when I connect Kindle by USB, but there are still issues left to figure out: - {pubdate} only display month-year on Kindle, without date - such plugboard setting not working for content_server yet, i.e. "Sharing over the net" Would you kindly elaborate further? thanks.