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Old 07-05-2023, 01:25 PM   #16
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No - it is a fact that they are just so cheaply or poorly built that the ignorant hardly notice it
Again, that's your opinion, not a fact.
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Old 07-05-2023, 01:40 PM   #17
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Again, that's your opinion, not a fact.
All of my 7 Kobos creak with some pressure (Tolino too) - that's certainly not premium.
Of all my devices there are 3 defects, everything under 7 Kobos - I was able to exchange 2 defective Tolinos (Kobo products).
It's a technical bungle to use an old and slow SD card as storage - that's a fact.
It's cheap stuff Kobo put in their devices
Do vou want more technical details?

At least I know why I don't get annoyed with such stuff anymore and prefer to pay a few more

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Old 07-05-2023, 01:46 PM   #18
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All of my 7 Kobos creak with some pressure (Tolino too) - that's certainly not premium.
Of all my devices there are 3 defects, everything under 7 Kobos - I was able to exchange 2 defective Tolinos (Kobo products).
It's a technical bungle to use an old and slow SD card as storage - that's a fact.
It's cheap stuff Kobo put in their devices.
None of the several Kobos I have owned has creaked or has had any other defects. So your opinion, based on your personal experience, is just an opinion. Other people have different experiences and different opinions.
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Thanks for all your answers and input.

I ordered today the new Boox Page e-reader. A friend of mine has the Leaf 2 and I read that the Page is the direct successor.
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Old 07-05-2023, 01:58 PM   #20
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None of the several Kobos I have owned has creaked or has had any other defects. So your opinion, based on your personal experience, is just an opinion. Other people have different experiences and different opinions.
You're overlooking the technical facts.
And that's not an opinion - they can be proven
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Old 07-05-2023, 02:08 PM   #21
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You're overlooking the technical facts.
And that's not an opinion - they can be proven
But your opinion that Kobo readers are not premium is an opinion, not a fact.
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A lot of Android based devices are cheaply made. And a lot are well made. You just have to be careful when buying anything Android that you don't get the cheap junk.
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But your opinion that Kobo readers are not premium is an opinion, not a fact.
Kobo devices are not premium - I demand at least better technical quality (no SD scrap) and above all no (cheap) plastic housing (in my opinion).

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No - it is a fact that they are just so cheaply or poorly built that the ignorant hardly notice it.

This also applies to Tolino
You keep pushing your opinions as fact and discarding everybody else's as rubbish.
You seem to be pushing this ereader pretty hard, makes you wonder if you have an agenda.
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You keep pushing your opinions as fact and discarding everybody else's as rubbish.
You seem to be pushing this ereader pretty hard, makes you wonder if you have an agenda.
Or a stake in the company.
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Kobo devices are not premium - I demand at least better technical quality (no SD scrap) and above all no (cheap) plastic housing (in my opinion).
For my part, I absolutely hate aluminum casing. Cold, slippery and uncomfortable to hold. Never again. Plastic may be cheap, but it's much, much nicer to hold in my hand.
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Or a stake in the company.
Unfortunately not
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You keep pushing your opinions as fact
But it is so - there is technical evidence for it.
The built-in SD cards can withstand at best 300 write processes per cell - then they are defective.
Only someone who doesn't use the device very much will stay fine longer.
With a large library and a lot of browsing through other books, it can't last long.
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But it is so - there is technical evidence for it.
The built-in SD cards can withstand at best 300 write processes per cell - then they are defective.
Only someone who doesn't use the device very much will stay fine longer.
With a large library and a lot of browsing through other books, it can't last long.
And yet there are several posters here who read every day and have used one and the same Kobo device for 5 years or more.
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But it is so - there is technical evidence for it.
The built-in SD cards can withstand at best 300 write processes per cell - then they are defective.
Only someone who doesn't use the device very much will stay fine longer.
With a large library and a lot of browsing through other books, it can't last long.
I think you are out by an order of magnitude. Also the mapping can change. An SD card isn't much different to a flash chip on a gadget. It simply also has a serial to parallel interface.
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