08-31-2010, 02:24 PM | #1 |
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Time for price drop
Maybe there ought to be a prefix for International. Because this is mainly directed towards non-US Kindle 3 operators.
Now that the Kindle comes with WiFi, and assuming you are getting your content from Amazon through WiFi, should the additional surcharge for 3G file transfer be a specific option for those who choose to use that for transferring content? I looked at some books from a US address and then from my Swedish address, som books were up to $4 more expensive for a European than an American (they do get all the goodies, don't they? ), however, if the book is delivered over WiFi Amazon don't incur any extra 3G charges for roaming. Delivering it my WiFi Kindle or Joe Sixpack's Kindle will cost them the same, but they do get to pocket a few extra bucks per sale. The other thing I discovered, is that unless I have some proxy connection Amazon knows I'm not in the US when connected through WiFi. That works fine with Kindle4PC, but alas you can't just transfer between the PC and the Kindle. |
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You cannot buy a book with K4PC and directly copy it to your Kindle, but if you remove the DRM from it you then can do. |
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08-31-2010, 03:39 PM | #3 | ||
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i went to the "manage your kindle" option and there next to your books there's the "send to" option where you can "transfer to your device" i think. (with kindle connected via USB) i'm guessing this allows you to move books around otherwise what would be the purpose of registering more than one device to the same account? now i might be stating the uber-obvious here or i might be wrong, but i hope i'm not can anyone verify? Last edited by TenaciousBadger; 08-31-2010 at 03:41 PM. |
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You can move all of the books that you have bought from Amazon using the Manage Your Kindle page. Once you have selected select to move to the Kindle of your choice all you have to do is turn on whispernet or the WiFi and you are good to go. Or you could download the books to your computer and then move them using the USB cord.
Amazon does not archive books that you buy from other stores or PDF files and the like. Those would have to be side loaded. I have no idea how the K4PC transfer works. I have moved many a book into my K4PC account but I have not downloaded a book to the K4PC account first and then moved it to my Kindle. I would assume that a book on your K4PC account would be in the archive and can be moved like any archived book. |
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If you download books using K4PC and copy those books from your "My Kindle Content" folder via USB to the documents folder on your Kindle they will not be readable on the Kindle because each device has it's own unique PID. This prevents documents downloaded from Amazon on one device from being read on another device. Likewise, if you backed up your books to your hard drive from one Kindle, you can't transfer those books to another Kindle and have them be readable. |
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That said, Amazon should really drop this surcharge for customers with no Kindle 3G capabilities (smartphones, PC, Kindle WiFi-only), because they have no way of costing Amazon money with transfers over 3G. We 3G+WiFi customers are screwed, though. As HarryT says, I guess this 3G surcharge will go away as Amazon signs local deals with telecoms to avoid roaming charges. However, I will not be holding my breath for that to happen in Spain any time this decade. |
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I have a WiFi only Kindle 3, hence I can never have deliveries made over 3G.
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If you think about it, though, that's really not feasible. Suppose you bought 100 books and then bought a 3G Kindle. Should Amazon charge you $200 at that point to pay for all the roaming you might do to download those books to your new 3G Kindle? I can't see that being terribly popular myself.
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This is why I love this board, I learn something new every day. It also explains why when I was downloading a book to my In Laws computer (no whispernet where they are) it asked what device I was going to be putting the book onto. I was wondering about that |
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09-01-2010, 10:14 AM | #13 |
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Books are device-coded. I have Blackberry, iPhone, Kindle 2, K4PC and K4Mac, and they all have different PIDs. BTW I'm only missing android
The international prices are usually $2.00 higher than the american counterparts, regardless of transfer method. I guess that goes not only to pay international roaming fees but international licensing as well. There *are* some cases where pricing is not the same as the US, here in Brazil I purchased Wolf Hall and The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest for less than the american version, two dollar fee included. Don't ask me why, but perhaps by some weird licensing it can happen, as the versions I have downloaded have British copyright texting. Also TGWKTHN was released earlier in here than in the american store. Covers are different as well. Last edited by bspline; 09-01-2010 at 10:15 AM. Reason: Added info |
09-01-2010, 10:30 AM | #14 |
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Yo add to the PID comments, when you purchase a book or other Kindle item, you are technically only allowed to have it on so many devices at once (I believe it is item specific).
Each item has its own PID to allow Amazon to keep track of how many devices you might have a specific book on. I think this is for the cases where someone might have many devices registered to one account.... i.e. if there was no limit you could share a book with many people by registering their Kindle to the same Amazon account. I've read on other forums (or perhaps somewhere in here) of an example (perhaps typical) of a book only being allowed on 6 devices. To go to a 7th device, the person had to remove it from a device through the "manage their Kindle" page. |
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AFAIK, it's roaming charges + local VAT, which in Europe is much higher for ebooks than for books.
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