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Experience with tougher copyright laws in France
It seems that digital sales have picked up since tougher laws and anti-piracy education have been launched. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/te...-piracy20.html
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I think that the cost is too big:
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Are there any statistics on the number of people encrypting their internet traffic to get around Hadopi snooping? Considering the cost of administrating it (which presumably the French tax payers cover?) there hasn't been much of an increase in digital sales. Certainly not enough for the tax revenue from those sales to cover the cost of Hadopi.
You would also need to factor in the affect on profits in other entertainment related industries — restaurants, cinema, etc. People would still need to buy blank media to backup their digital purchases (though obviously a lot less than they would have been buying before), so there would be less disposable income left over for other forms of entertainmnet. |
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Laws already existed to enable content creators to prosecute unauthorised downloaders, so shifting the burden of paying for that from the corporations most likely to benefit from a reduction in piracy to ordinary tax payers is just plain wrong. All you are doing is subsidising those corporations at the expense of smaller local businesses. (Like with the Tesco Value Workers.) It depends on the seriousness of the crime, how much it would cost to enforce it, and how it negatively impacts other people or oganisations. Some are worth prosecuting, some aren't. There needs to be a net benefit for society as a whole, otherwise it's just a waste of money. |
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It's not morally wrong to copy something without paying for it. We all do this when we tell our families a joke we heard at work. If copying were innately immoral and illegal, photocopiers and scanners would be a regulated industry, requiring a proof-of-copyright before using. Quote:
What gains come from it, and what is lost? In this case, it seems that the gains are noticeable but small, and the losses are being ignored entirely. |
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Legal pursuit against your customer (or at worse potential customers), is not a brilliant commercial strategy. If only they would spend the same energy trying to figure out how to get people interested in their products... |
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If the harm that a law causes outweighs the harm it is trying to prevent/correct/address, then that is a problem.
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They sent out 822,000 email warnings.
They sent out 68,000 second-stage warnings. They sent out 165 third-stage warnings. Only fraction of those 165 third-stage warnings appear to be going to court, where the individual might face a €1500 fine and/or lose Internet for 1 month. Or, if they can demonstrate that it's not their fault, they are not punished. That doesn't sound like a horrendous cost to me, especially compared to a maximum of $20,000 per-download fine that you could face in the US. |
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People could always employ accountability to avoid this.. nah too much work.
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So the French taxpayer is paying a minimum of US$392.360 just in postage costs to protect the profits of private corporations, quite apart from administrative, legal and salary costs incurred by Hadopi*. At the most they seem to be likely to recover 165x1500 Euros, or E247,500 equal to US$327,538. Which means even if every existing case is won they won't even cover their postage costs! There's a reason both of the main opposition parties in next years French elections are committed to abolishing Hadopi. And according to current opinion Sarkozy is going to lose to one of them. That is exactly what ACTA, SOPA/PIPA and C11 in Canada are designed to do - transfer the costs for protecting corporate profits from the corporate budget to the public budget. Edit: *According to the NYT article Hadopi has a budget of Euro11Million. Edit2: I'm sure it would be far too cynical of me to think that this has anything to do with why Sarkozy brought in Hadopi. Last edited by plib; 02-21-2012 at 05:53 AM. |
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