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12-01-2012, 01:07 AM | #1 |
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Has anyone tried reading on mobile, books from Archive.org or Google books?
The free books of ePub or mobi available for download on Google Books and Archive. They have spelling errors and spacing errors and have no table of contents.
How do you cope with that? Any solutions? |
12-01-2012, 09:32 AM | #2 |
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Most of those books are scans with OCR, so errors are bound to pop up. Alternatives are places like gutenberg.org, which has a smaller selection but they are proofread; or selecting formats that provide the scanned image (PDF, DjVu).
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12-01-2012, 09:37 AM | #3 |
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The real value of "archive.org" (and Google books, too) is its PDF page scans. They are a wonderful resource for scanned copied of out-of-copyright books for proofing an eBook against.
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12-01-2012, 08:05 PM | #4 |
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I like the PDF page scans too, but the problem I have with that is that you cannot read it anywhere, you have to be on front of a computer.
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12-01-2012, 08:09 PM | #5 |
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I read one such nineteenth century eBook that's of local historical interest. I'd rather the book was proofread, but I did finish it.
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12-01-2012, 11:43 PM | #6 |
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Of interest largely to proofreaders or scholars who cannot find the source materials elsewhere. Not suited to ereader devices.
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12-02-2012, 10:37 AM | #7 |
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Has anyone attempted to make a table of contents for one of these books? I thought archive.org or Google Books should implement software that would automatically generate table of contents for the all the files including ePub / mobi files.
What would be the best way to make a petition? |
12-02-2012, 10:41 AM | #8 |
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What do you need a petition for? It's easy enough to add your own TOC. But I think you misunderstand the purpose of these sites; the "raw" OCR that they do is never going to give you eBooks suitable for reading without manual cleaning up. That's not what they're there for. They're better regarded as resources for creating nice eBooks from, rather than giving you the finished article.
Why not create a few nicely-formatted and proof-read eBooks yourself and upload them to our library for everyone to enjoy? |
12-02-2012, 11:20 AM | #9 |
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I think it is time consuming for people to add table of contents one by one. It would be a lot faster if a bot automatically generated the table of contents.
As well as the random spaces between words, there are so much of them it would be time consuming to delete those spaces. Editing the spelling errors would be understandable because only humans can do that while the other two I mentioned probably can be automated via programming. Also I think even PDF books that you download from Google Books and Archive are hard to read because they don't give you table of contents which probably can be easily made with programming instead of having the reader manually put in the table of contents. Last edited by automa; 12-02-2012 at 11:22 AM. |
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12-02-2012, 03:35 PM | #11 |
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It will be less time consuming for everyone else if a few developers working for archive.org and Google Books implement the feature.
In other words it takes much less time for developers to do some programming to save a ton of time for all the readers. They must have programmers working for them already so the only reason I can think of why they are not implementing this feature is because of ignorance that it could be extremely useful, so that all we have to do is notify them of the extreme usefulness of such implementation, and it takes numbers to notify them. So we need a petition. |
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Also why should people giving freely of their time be expected to give even more just so other people don't have to invest some of their time... it's not as though you have a right to a shiny professional product because you paid for it... I suppose it's symptomatic that if you get something for nothing then some just expect even more for the same price... Last edited by elcreative; 12-02-2012 at 04:21 PM. |
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http://home.comcast.net/~thundergnat/guiprep.html As you can see from my link, an enormous amount of work has already gone into this. You may have good ideas for additional features. However, it is was easy, or even middling difficult, I think it would already have been done. People are undoubtedly work on some of the hard stuff. I'm not sure, but a lot of non-proofread texts at archive.org have perhaps already gone through this sort of software. |
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No problem with letting them know what you'd like, of course, but I don't think Archive is interested in doing that. |
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12-03-2012, 01:54 AM | #15 |
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