And a new Paperwhite? When?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JBaby

I find that non-disabled people almost always say this about something new that they deem unnecessary until they try it, like it, and then it’s ok for everyone to want it. You don’t have to be disabled to want this. It’s doesn’t have to be a matter of laziness. It’s perfectly fine to just want the convenience of something.

Oddly enough, I have tried several page turners, physical, Bluetooth and WiFi. One part of my career was working with disabled students to help them to have as much independence as possible in learning. I also helped people outside work set their page-turners up. While most could be made to work, I did not find them worthwhile for me. As I said, with ereaders being a niche device with total sales of ereaders being a rounding error in Apple or Samsung sales, page turners for eInk ereaders are a niche within a niche market.

Originally Posted by JBaby

I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but page turners are popular in this niche community. Go on any book community social media and you’ll find it in nearly every ereader must have video. These are regular people not nerds like us here. I’m willing to bet good money the majority of these people using page turners aren’t disabled.

Within the group of people I know IRL who use ereaders, the percentage of users with disabilities that would prevent them from holding their ereader in their hands is rather low. For that fraction that has issues, assistive technology while maybe not a "life-saver", does help them to enjoy some quality of life. However, I think I am close to reality when I say that the vast majority of ereader users do not want or need a page turner.

Originally Posted by JBaby

I am disabled. I don’t hold my Kindle often. When I do hold it it’s because I’m outside and tilted back in my wheelchair. I use gravity to help me hold it. My pager turners are assistive technology (AT) for me just like my Kindle. When I’m reading in bed my Kindle sits on my overbed table on a tablet stand. I can read while upright or reclined in my hospital bed.

This would’ve been so useful back when I still playing violin. Someone always had to turn the page for me.

I have no objection to page turners per se. What I object to is the people who appear to be claiming that more than a small minority of ereader users want and would make use of a page turner. Even with iOS or Android tablets, where setting up a page turner is relatively trivial, you don't see many people making use of a page turner.

I remember being a page turner while at university. It got me into the concerts for free and forced me to concentrate on the music to know when to flip the page. Sadly, I was never good enough at playing any instrument to think of a career in a folk group.

[JSWolf]

@JBaby you cannot post images from Tapatalk. They don't work. Can you please edit your post and attach them?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

@JBaby you cannot post images from Tapatalk. They don't work. Can you please edit your post and attach them?

Jon, just to make you happy and save you the effort of having to open the links:

[twowheels]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Jon, just to make you happy and save you the effort of having to open the links:

While I generally enjoy when Jon receives a good ribbing, in this case I also didn't see the images nor links in the post -- they just showed up as cloud icons w/ an exclamation warning symbol on them.

[John F]

Does being a niche within a niche matter? Pocket, wiki, Dropbox,...

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by John F

Does being a niche within a niche matter? Pocket, wiki, Dropbox,...

When it comes to requesting a company include functionality that will cost more than the increase in sales will compensate for, it's a tough sell.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by twowheels

While I generally enjoy when Jon receives a good ribbing, in this case I also didn't see the images nor links in the post -- they just showed up as cloud icons w/ an exclamation warning symbol on them.

I grabbed the URLs and looked at them when I quoted the original message. I still had the pages open so made it trivial to download them and then attach to a message.

[Aleron Ives]

Originally Posted by twowheels

I also didn't see the images nor links in the post -- they just showed up as cloud icons w/ an exclamation warning symbol on them.

Yes, MR "helpfully" blocks all external images. In order to view them, you must right click on the image, copy the image URL, paste it into another browser tab, and delete the useless MR proxy part of the link (in bold):

https://usercontent.mobileread.org/proxy/nMi9IHtJmjW69jlpohoxWKrp684/aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxvYWRzLnRhcGF0YWxrLWNkbi5jb20vMjAyNDA0MDEvZDI1MTFhMjY1ZTcwMzhjYzg2Y2EyOGFlMjQ4NjFhYzQuanBn#https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240401/d2511a265e7038cc86ca28ae24861ac4.jpg

Once you isolate the actual image URL, you can view the image. Why the staff doesn't fix this, I have no idea. It would make more sense to ban the use of the img tag than to allow people to post images that nobody can actually see without extra work.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

Yes, MR "helpfully" blocks all external images. In order to view them, you must right click on the image, copy the image URL, paste it into another browser tab, and delete the useless MR proxy part of the link (in bold):

https://usercontent.mobileread.org/proxy/nMi9IHtJmjW69jlpohoxWKrp684/aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxvYWRzLnRhcGF0YWxrLWNkbi5jb20vMjAyNDA0MDEvZDI1MTFhMjY1ZTcwMzhjYzg2Y2EyOGFlMjQ4NjFhYzQuanBn#https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240401/d2511a265e7038cc86ca28ae24861ac4.jpg

Once you isolate the actual image URL, you can view the image. Why the staff doesn't fix this, I have no idea. It would make more sense to ban the use of the img tag than to allow people to post images that nobody can actually see without extra work.

I find it easier to quote the message so the URLs are easily available. I noparsed the two links from the original message below:

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240401/d2511a265e7038cc86ca28ae24861ac4.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240401/1d4bab97bacf12e6b74c99b5b1311db2.jpg[/IMG]


Just using URL at least gives us something we can click on.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ae24861ac4.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b5b1311db2.jpg

[j.p.s]

But, as JSWolf requested and you did, attaching images is best.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

But, as JSWolf requested and you did, attaching images is best.

I agree with that as the thumbnails are worth the effort. What I was discussing was the best way to handle those sites that don't work with IMG tags or for people who have issues using the Manage Attachments tool.

[Aleron Ives]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

attaching images is best.

No, fixing the IMG tags so they work properly would be even better.

[John F]

Originally Posted by DNSB

When it comes to requesting a company include functionality that will cost more than the increase in sales will compensate for, it's a tough sell.

And yet pocket, wiki, Dropbox,...

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

No, fixing the IMG tags so they work properly would be even better.

Not when the image URL no longer exists.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

No, fixing the IMG tags so they work properly would be even better.

Considering the issue is several sites that do not permit access by other websites, that would be unlikely to happen even if Mobileread was in active development.

Perhaps you can suggest a quick fix for the issue of Youtube videos that will not display from other websites?