RAM too small?

tigrpal · 04-21-2024, 08:37 PM

I've added a study Bible to my Paperwhite. File is 32 mb. Lots of footnotes and links to take you to different parts of the Bible. It often, not always, causes my Paperwhite to crash not only while I'm using the Bible but sometimes when I'm reading other books. I do a restart and it works fine for a while. When I remove the Bible from my Paperwhite, no crashes. Reload and it starts to crash again so I know the problem is this book. The Bible works fine in my Kindle app on my phone. Is the Bible using up too much RAM causing the crashes? If so, I will start to look for another device with more RAM unless anyone has a better solution.

Thanks in advance for suggestions.

Aleron Ives · 04-21-2024, 09:06 PM

It's more likely that that particular Bible is poorly formatted. The larger an e-book is, the more complex the code becomes, and the more chances there are for something to be handled incorrectly. Religious texts are some of the largest and most complex e-books you can get.

If you remove DRM from your books, you can load it into Calibre or Sigil to check it for errors. If you don't, your only option would be to buy a different Bible and hope for better results on round two.

DNSB · 04-22-2024, 02:06 AM

As an alternate to the study Bible being poorly formatted, one bible that I looked at that a friend was complaining about had a almost ridiculously complex table of contents with over 42K entries. The issue was not the formatting which was bog standard. The main issue I found was that keeping that oversized table of contents in memory caused memory starvation on an ereader with it's limited RAM memory.

tomsem · 04-22-2024, 02:19 PM

I am curious: is this PDF, or a Kindle format?

tigrpal · 04-22-2024, 02:34 PM

Kindle formatted.

tomsem · 04-22-2024, 02:53 PM

Bibles can really push the limits in terms of number of ToC entries. I've also had some trouble feeding omnibus collections in ePub format to Send To Kindle for the same reason. Last time I had trouble, it seemed the limit was somewhere in range of 1500-2000.

tigrpal · 04-22-2024, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

Bibles can really push the limits in terms of number of ToC entries. I've also had some trouble feeding omnibus collections in ePub format to Send To Kindle for the same reason. Last time I had trouble, it seemed the limit was somewhere in range of 1500-2000.

So can this be solved with more RAM? My Kindle has 512MB. Some Android ereaders have 2, 3 or 6 gb of RAM. Would they be better for such a book as this?

DNSB · 04-22-2024, 10:45 PM

Probably yes. As you mentioned the Kindle app on your phone shows no issues so likely any iOS or Android device with more memory would work.

04-21-2024, 08:37 PM	#1
tigrpal Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2024 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 11th Gen.	RAM too small? I've added a study Bible to my Paperwhite. File is 32 mb. Lots of footnotes and links to take you to different parts of the Bible. It often, not always, causes my Paperwhite to crash not only while I'm using the Bible but sometimes when I'm reading other books. I do a restart and it works fine for a while. When I remove the Bible from my Paperwhite, no crashes. Reload and it starts to crash again so I know the problem is this book. The Bible works fine in my Kindle app on my phone. Is the Bible using up too much RAM causing the crashes? If so, I will start to look for another device with more RAM unless anyone has a better solution. Thanks in advance for suggestions.

04-22-2024, 02:34 PM	#5
tigrpal Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2024 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 11th Gen.	Kindle formatted. Last edited by tigrpal; 04-22-2024 at 02:37 PM. Reason: added info

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04-21-2024, 09:06 PM	#2
Aleron Ives Wizard Posts: 1,039 Karma: 11500112 Join Date: Sep 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	It's more likely that that particular Bible is poorly formatted. The larger an e-book is, the more complex the code becomes, and the more chances there are for something to be handled incorrectly. Religious texts are some of the largest and most complex e-books you can get. If you remove DRM from your books, you can load it into Calibre or Sigil to check it for errors. If you don't, your only option would be to buy a different Bible and hope for better results on round two.

04-22-2024, 02:06 AM	#3
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,673 Karma: 145624988 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	As an alternate to the study Bible being poorly formatted, one bible that I looked at that a friend was complaining about had a almost ridiculously complex table of contents with over 42K entries. The issue was not the formatting which was bog standard. The main issue I found was that keeping that oversized table of contents in memory caused memory starvation on an ereader with it's limited RAM memory.

04-22-2024, 02:19 PM	#4
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,486 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	I am curious: is this PDF, or a Kindle format?

04-22-2024, 02:53 PM	#6
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,486 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	Bibles can really push the limits in terms of number of ToC entries. I've also had some trouble feeding omnibus collections in ePub format to Send To Kindle for the same reason. Last time I had trouble, it seemed the limit was somewhere in range of 1500-2000.

04-22-2024, 10:45 PM	#8
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,673 Karma: 145624988 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Probably yes. As you mentioned the Kindle app on your phone shows no issues so likely any iOS or Android device with more memory would work.