Amazon Kindle DX vs. jetBook Color

Kris777 · 06-07-2012, 10:46 PM

Interesting information about search time and opening time for PDF files on Ectaco blog:
http://ectaco-global.blogspot.com/

I don't have Kindle DX to compare it but I can confirm that new jetBook Color firmware works much faster and i hope it will be even more faster with new update.

GA Russell · 06-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Kris, what about the prices of the two?

ProDigit · 06-08-2012, 01:26 AM

JBC $500 vs Kindle $379.
Although some second hand kindle DX'es go from 192 all the way up to $465 (almost same price as JBC)!
Can you believe that on amazon there are sales people selling a more expensive second hand than new??

The extra options are well worth the price, Kindle's missing SD cardreader slot is a big turnoff for me!
I dislike companies that try to work with a closed system.

I also dislike the DX keyboard and it's low battery life for e-ink.
Although, the battery life of the kindle is about the same as for the JBC. It's 1 week with wifi on. The JBC is 21 days wifi off,which is about the same as the kindle dx.

Really the only 2 things the DX has better is a whiter background, and the somewhat cheaper price. Ow, and the WORKING wifi on the kindle (JBC's wifi is still quite useless)!

read365 · 06-08-2012, 01:59 AM

JBC is nice
but kindle dx is pear screen.
so little whiter than JBC

anyway i like JBC than kindle...

X read X · 06-08-2012, 04:37 PM

This is interesting i was waiting for something like this 2 bad i don't have a kindle dx or i would try it myself.

What annoys me is people saying 'ipad is faster'. iPad is a completely different device!!! Its really comparing apples to oranges. Literally!

"My Ferrari is faster" well i'm a golfer dammit and i need a place to put my clubs! Haha.

joblack · 06-09-2012, 11:58 AM

I have both devices. I think they complement each other.

The Kinde DX is fine for rotating A4 e-books in landscape mode. That is not possible with the JetBook Color (but it has a nice reflow feature which works passable well).

There are no more firmware updates for the Kindle DX which means some pdfs with new features will not work.

Btw. the battery life for the Jetbook Color is overstated ...

ProDigit · 06-09-2012, 01:17 PM

I agree with you.
On a good month I get 21 days of battery life, but that's without much reading.
Most of the time I get about 14 days of battery with regular reading of between 2 and 4 hours per day.

Concerning PDF's, there's not much more that can change. PDF's are basically established, and they won't see much changes, unless you're talking about integrating video in a file, which will be impossible, and silly on an e-ink device (as well as on printed paper).

The Kindle DX is at it's end of it's life cycle (about to be phased out, and no more support for upgrades), the JBC is at it's beginning. They're expected to still create firmware that will fully make use of the wireless features, as well as menu structure improvements, and file format compatibility and bug fixes.

JSWolf · 06-09-2012, 01:25 PM

What I dislike is the deceptive advertising Etaco does. They show a color image and tell us the device is 1200x1600 resolution when in color it's only 800x600. That's very deceptive advertising. But then, Ectaco has a history of making comparison charts that lie. They did so when comparing the Jetbook to the 505 and K2.

LuBiB · 06-09-2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What I dislike is the deceptive advertising Etaco does. They show a color image and tell us the device is 1200x1600 resolution when in color it's only 800x600. That's very deceptive advertising. But then, Ectaco has a history of making comparison charts that lie. They did so when comparing the Jetbook to the 505 and K2.

Relax yourself JS. We've heard you talking bad about Ectaco for years and yet you still have not been able to purchase one...not even ONE yet.

When you do, let us know how the 'advertising' works or doesn't.

And FYI, the colors aren't bad at all. I'm glad to have a large device that i load my own files to.

There would be no other company with Color E Ink if it wasn't for Ectaco so savveeeeee itttttt.

JSWolf · 06-09-2012, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuBiB

Relax yourself JS. We've heard you talking bad about Ectaco for years and yet you still have not been able to purchase one...not even ONE yet.

When you do, let us know how the 'advertising' works or doesn't.

And FYI, the colors aren't bad at all. I'm glad to have a large device that i load my own files to.

There would be no other company with Color E Ink if it wasn't for Ectaco so savveeeeee itttttt.

I'm not buying Ectaco's products until maybe they can bring one out that has truth in advertising. I wasn't commenting on the colors just that the image they show is 800x600 and yet they claim 1200x1600. That's not truth in advertising. That makes people think it's a 1200x1600 color display when the color is only 800x600.

joblack · 06-09-2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm not buying Ectaco's products until maybe they can bring one out that has truth in advertising. I wasn't commenting on the colors just that the image they show is 800x600 and yet they claim 1200x1600. That's not truth in advertising. That makes people think it's a 1200x1600 color display when the color is only 800x600.

The color is primarily for pictures and other illustrations. I don't think it's fair to calculate in 800x600 (which would be 600x800 if you want to be right).

Btw. the Kindle DX advertisment is not completely right as well. No way to have 3 weeks of battery power. I have the impression you're more on a fanboy trip as beeing objective.

JSWolf · 06-09-2012, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joblack

The color is primarily for pictures and other illustrations. I don't think it's fair to calculate in 800x600 (which would be 600x800 if you want to be right).

Btw. the Kindle DX advertisment is not completely right as well. No way to have 3 weeks of battery power. I have the impression you're more on a fanboy trip as beeing objective.

It depends on how they are calculating the three weeks. That's most likely fudging things. But still it could be valid enough given the fudge factor in use.

Kris777 · 06-09-2012, 11:25 PM

I agree with LuBiB. JBC is unique product because nobody have Color E Ink screen.
All iPads, Nook Tablets and Kindle Fire good for video but bad for long time reading so jetBook Color is a good combination of Color and healthy reading on E ink screen.
I installed April's firmware and it works much faster than before. I still use my
jetBook mini for reading during the trips and use jetbook Color for home reading.

ProDigit · 06-10-2012, 02:26 AM

Either way, the most important thing in a book is being able to read the text, be it black or white. In that, the JBC has a 1200x1600 resolution.
and the image speaks for itself when you see it, it's clearly capable of displaying smaller text, that 800x600 devices can not display; and in the same quality field as 1024x768 to 1600x1200 LCD screens.

Eventhough other e-ink devices have 8-bits of colors on every pixel, and they look nice in black and white, they still don't have color. The JBC has ~4k colors, which in my mind still is better than to have less than 1600x1200 of just B/W pixels.

Begemot · 06-12-2012, 06:20 AM

It would be more relevant to see an independent comparison of Jetbook Color and Kindle DX. Any company when producing a comparison will ignore the negative and emphasize the positive. Some fruit named companies have brought this to an art form.

Especially curious, how fast the page turns are for diagram laden 20Meg PDFs on Jetbook Color vs Kindle Dx.

06-07-2012, 10:46 PM	#1
Kris777 Banned Posts: 1,767 Karma: 2520493 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Nexus 7, jetBook-Lite, jetBook mini, Toshiba Thrive, JETBOOK COLOR	Amazon Kindle DX vs. jetBook Color Interesting information about search time and opening time for PDF files on Ectaco blog: http://ectaco-global.blogspot.com/ I don't have Kindle DX to compare it but I can confirm that new jetBook Color firmware works much faster and i hope it will be even more faster with new update.

06-08-2012, 01:26 AM	#3
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	JBC $500 vs Kindle $379. Although some second hand kindle DX'es go from 192 all the way up to $465 (almost same price as JBC)! Can you believe that on amazon there are sales people selling a more expensive second hand than new?? The extra options are well worth the price, Kindle's missing SD cardreader slot is a big turnoff for me! I dislike companies that try to work with a closed system. I also dislike the DX keyboard and it's low battery life for e-ink. Although, the battery life of the kindle is about the same as for the JBC. It's 1 week with wifi on. The JBC is 21 days wifi off,which is about the same as the kindle dx. Really the only 2 things the DX has better is a whiter background, and the somewhat cheaper price. Ow, and the WORKING wifi on the kindle (JBC's wifi is still quite useless)! Last edited by ProDigit; 06-08-2012 at 01:34 AM.

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read365 Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 11938 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Daegu, Korea(South) Device: pocketbook pro 902, Jetbook Color 1	JBC is nice but kindle dx is pear screen. so little whiter than JBC anyway i like JBC than kindle...

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X read X Banned Posts: 81 Karma: 502298 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Jetbook, iPhone 4, Jetbook Color.	This is interesting i was waiting for something like this 2 bad i don't have a kindle dx or i would try it myself. What annoys me is people saying 'ipad is faster'. iPad is a completely different device!!! Its really comparing apples to oranges. Literally! "My Ferrari is faster" well i'm a golfer dammit and i need a place to put my clubs! Haha.

06-09-2012, 11:58 AM	#6
joblack Wizard Posts: 1,746 Karma: 4382688 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere on earth Device: Onyx Boox Tab X	I have both devices. I think they complement each other. The Kinde DX is fine for rotating A4 e-books in landscape mode. That is not possible with the JetBook Color (but it has a nice reflow feature which works passable well). There are no more firmware updates for the Kindle DX which means some pdfs with new features will not work. Btw. the battery life for the Jetbook Color is overstated ...

06-09-2012, 01:17 PM	#7
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	I agree with you. On a good month I get 21 days of battery life, but that's without much reading. Most of the time I get about 14 days of battery with regular reading of between 2 and 4 hours per day. Concerning PDF's, there's not much more that can change. PDF's are basically established, and they won't see much changes, unless you're talking about integrating video in a file, which will be impossible, and silly on an e-ink device (as well as on printed paper). The Kindle DX is at it's end of it's life cycle (about to be phased out, and no more support for upgrades), the JBC is at it's beginning. They're expected to still create firmware that will fully make use of the wireless features, as well as menu structure improvements, and file format compatibility and bug fixes.

06-09-2012, 01:25 PM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 75,166 Karma: 132820308 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What I dislike is the deceptive advertising Etaco does. They show a color image and tell us the device is 1200x1600 resolution when in color it's only 800x600. That's very deceptive advertising. But then, Ectaco has a history of making comparison charts that lie. They did so when comparing the Jetbook to the 505 and K2.

06-09-2012, 11:25 PM	#13
Kris777 Banned Posts: 1,767 Karma: 2520493 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Nexus 7, jetBook-Lite, jetBook mini, Toshiba Thrive, JETBOOK COLOR	I agree with LuBiB. JBC is unique product because nobody have Color E Ink screen. All iPads, Nook Tablets and Kindle Fire good for video but bad for long time reading so jetBook Color is a good combination of Color and healthy reading on E ink screen. I installed April's firmware and it works much faster than before. I still use my jetBook mini for reading during the trips and use jetbook Color for home reading.

06-10-2012, 02:26 AM	#14
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	Either way, the most important thing in a book is being able to read the text, be it black or white. In that, the JBC has a 1200x1600 resolution. and the image speaks for itself when you see it, it's clearly capable of displaying smaller text, that 800x600 devices can not display; and in the same quality field as 1024x768 to 1600x1200 LCD screens. Eventhough other e-ink devices have 8-bits of colors on every pixel, and they look nice in black and white, they still don't have color. The JBC has ~4k colors, which in my mind still is better than to have less than 1600x1200 of just B/W pixels.

06-12-2012, 06:20 AM	#15
Begemot Zealot Posts: 111 Karma: 18638 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Sony DPT-S1, Kindle DX, iPad, Kobo Mini,H20,iRiver StoryHD	It would be more relevant to see an independent comparison of Jetbook Color and Kindle DX. Any company when producing a comparison will ignore the negative and emphasize the positive. Some fruit named companies have brought this to an art form. Especially curious, how fast the page turns are for diagram laden 20Meg PDFs on Jetbook Color vs Kindle Dx.

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