Color New to the JetBook world..intrested in buying JetBook Color

PF4Mobile · 01-03-2012, 10:35 AM

Hi all

I just found out about the colour version of JetBook and to be honest with you, today it was the first time I read/hear about this manufacture.
I am really excited about their new model and I am looking at buying one. Could you please answer these questions and kindly point me to the pages where I can read more? I could not find much about the device.
Here are my questions:

-What OS is the device running?
-Is there any developer group/community?
-What PDF reader is it running?
-what are the capabilities of this PDF reader in terms of annotating and highlighting PDFs?
-Can the annotations and the highlights be exported on PC? What format is it used?

Thanks
PF

Ken Maltby · 01-03-2012, 11:00 AM

All good questions, that are not readily available. I haven't seen any English manual,
only a Russian one.

http://www.ectaco.com/jetBook_Color/

You might post your questions to the Ectaco Forum:

http://www.ectaco.com/forums/show/185.page

Jerry may be able to obtain some of those answers.

Luck;
Ken

P.S. When you first click on a thread, you will be redirected to the Ectaco main page,
just use your browser's back arrow to return to the forum and select the thread again,
you will then get there.

PF4Mobile · 01-03-2012, 11:28 AM

Thanks Ken I already checked those pages, I could not find much there and their forums seems to receive less traffic that this one...
Do they reply to questions on their own forum?

Backi · 01-03-2012, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

-What OS is the device running?

Well, I found a russian manual and on page 2 stands "Windows является зарегистрированной торговой маркой [...]" (Windows is a registered trademark ...). It's the only occurence of the word, so it's unclear, which OS it uses.

Images are looking fine: http://www.jetbookcolor.ru/gallery

Ken Maltby · 01-03-2012, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

Thanks Ken I already checked those pages, I could not find much there and their forums seems to receive less traffic that this one...
Do they reply to questions on their own forum?

Usually they do respond, but as you noted there is not much traffic there
right now (perhaps the release of the Color jetBook will bring back the
posters). The Ectaco guys aren't likely to respond except during working
hours on working days.

Luck;
Ken

Backi · 01-03-2012, 12:06 PM

I found a post, where the user opened a jetBook Color:
http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...65da450#800932

He writes, that on the backside of a back plate stands Windows Embedded CE 6.0 core!
EDIT: As this Hanvon reader is the foundation, it states WinCE 6.0:
http://www.hanvon.com/en/products/eb...ucts-C920.html

Another one writes about the confusion concerning the resolution. As far as I understood, the reader has a 800x600 ppi and with subpixel-dithering it makes out of it 1600x1200 dpi.
9.68" x >200 dpi ~= sqrt(1600^2 + 1200^2)

PF4Mobile · 01-03-2012, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backi

I found a post, where the user opened a jetBook Color:
http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...65da450#800932

He writes, that on the backside of a back plate stands Windows Embedded CE 6.0 core!

Another one writes about the confusion concerning the resolution. As far as I understood, the reader has a 800x600 ppi and with subpixel-dithering it makes out of it 1600x1200 dpi.
9.68" x >200 dpi ~= sqrt(1600^2 + 1200^2)

Wow!
That opens a can of worms for me!
I do have a WinCE phone (old) but I have never investigated the posibility to use it for ereading (small screen)
Now I will have to look and see what PDF annotation apps are out there.
I read on Wikipedia that older version of these readers were using FoxIt PDF... not bad!

see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECTACO_jetBook

Ken Maltby · 01-03-2012, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backi

I found a post, where the user opened a jetBook Color:
http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...65da450#800932

He writes, that on the backside of a back plate stands Windows Embedded CE 6.0 core!

Another one writes about the confusion concerning the resolution. As far as I understood, the reader has a 800x600 ppi and with subpixel-dithering it makes out of it 1600x1200 dpi.
9.68" x >200 dpi ~= sqrt(1600^2 + 1200^2)

Hmm... that could be very interesting. A large display version of that OS
could provide for the use of the many existing win mobile/pocketPC
applications out there. I have plenty on my PDA, that would be interesting
and useful on such a device. As for eReading, I used to read on my PDA
long before I ever got a dedicated eReader. There are a number of reading
apps for that OS.

Luck;
Ken

PF4Mobile · 01-03-2012, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Maltby

Hmm... that could be very interesting. A large display version of that OS
could provide for the use of the many existing win mobile/pocketPC
applications out there. I have plenty on my PDA, that would be interesting
and useful on such a device. As for eReading, I used to read on my PDA
long before I ever got a dedicated eReader. There are a number of reading
apps for that OS.

Luck;
Ken

what is it available on the market for PDF reading and annotating?

the screen technology is explained here

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E_Ink_Triton

Backi · 01-03-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

-what are the capabilities of this PDF reader in terms of annotating and highlighting PDFs?

The box cover in this post shows at least annotations in a document.

A poster mentiones, that DJVU is not in the list of supported formats listed in the manual on page 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.jetbookcolor.ru/manual/jbc_manual_sale.pdf

Обычный текст (.txt), FictionBook (.fb2), Mobipocket (.mobi), PRC, PDB, EPUB, RTF, HTML и PDF

Whereas

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.ectaco.com/jetBook_Color

Support for: Adobe DRM 9.1, ePub, Mobi, PRC, RTF, TXT, PDF, FB2, djvu, JPG, Gif, PNG, BMP (more to come).

Did they customize the reader for american/european market?

Ken Maltby · 01-03-2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

what is it available on the market for PDF reading and annotating?

the screen technology is explained here

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E_Ink_Triton

You might try googling: "Windows CE 6.0 apps PDF" and "Win Mobile apps"
to find some, as well as other info on the OS. I would expect that a PDF
viewer would be included in the initial apps and with the devices annotating
functions already in place for the academic version, I would expect that as
well.

I would hope that they make it so that the existing apps/cab files can be
installed. If not, I would expect that to be one of the first hacks.

Luck;
Ken

The "Foxit" reader has a free version for Win CE that includes annotations.

Backi · 01-03-2012, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

-What PDF reader is it running?
-what are the capabilities of this PDF reader in terms of annotating and highlighting PDFs?

The guy from Ectaco states in this video: take notes, highlight and even underline.

PF4Mobile · 01-03-2012, 01:23 PM

Thanks Ken
I looked at that too. (mobile foxit ).
I am now reading the russian forum for this device.
They are quite frustrated and they are waiting for the US version to be released this month hopping that this new release will fix issues.
The reader seem to be based on Hanvon hardware and I was reading also that this one has problems with the software. Apparently whatever is software written in China is not very good. I think that the device is hackable and sooner or later they will "root" the device to say so.
I am about to pull the trigger for an Onyx M92, that sells for 439$ shipping included hoping to pay no taxes
This one (jetBook Color) is 500$+taxes+shipping and handling. Not sure if I want to wait to have a clearer picture about what this one can do. According with the specs it does a lot. I would need to find out more about PDF functionality and clarify that resolution issue...

PF4Mobile · 01-03-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backi

The guy from Ectaco states in this video: take notes, highlight and even underline.

he says that but can we see it :-) ? Seeing is believing.

Ken Maltby · 01-03-2012, 01:35 PM

There are a number of choices for reading PDFs in this price range and display size.
The street pricing tends to drop after the initial release. If you don't need the e-ink
ability to read in the sun, their are plenty of Honeycomb 10" display color LCD devices.
I have the ASUS Pad Transformer myself, but I like the Toshiba Thrive's specs better.
The jetBook Color has the distinction of being the first Color E-Ink eReader of this size.

Luck;
Ken

01-03-2012, 10:35 AM	#1
PF4Mobile Guru Posts: 629 Karma: 3526 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Nook Touch, EEE 800 Note, Entourage PE, finally M92	New to the JetBook world..intrested in buying JetBook Color Hi all I just found out about the colour version of JetBook and to be honest with you, today it was the first time I read/hear about this manufacture. I am really excited about their new model and I am looking at buying one. Could you please answer these questions and kindly point me to the pages where I can read more? I could not find much about the device. Here are my questions: -What OS is the device running? -Is there any developer group/community? -What PDF reader is it running? -what are the capabilities of this PDF reader in terms of annotating and highlighting PDFs? -Can the annotations and the highlights be exported on PC? What format is it used? Thanks PF

01-03-2012, 11:00 AM	#2
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,465 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	All good questions, that are not readily available. I haven't seen any English manual, only a Russian one. http://www.ectaco.com/jetBook_Color/ You might post your questions to the Ectaco Forum: http://www.ectaco.com/forums/show/185.page Jerry may be able to obtain some of those answers. Luck; Ken P.S. When you first click on a thread, you will be redirected to the Ectaco main page, just use your browser's back arrow to return to the forum and select the thread again, you will then get there. Last edited by Ken Maltby; 01-03-2012 at 11:18 AM.

01-03-2012, 12:06 PM	#6
Backi Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 15776 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: PB912 Matt White	I found a post, where the user opened a jetBook Color: http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...65da450#800932 He writes, that on the backside of a back plate stands Windows Embedded CE 6.0 core! EDIT: As this Hanvon reader is the foundation, it states WinCE 6.0: http://www.hanvon.com/en/products/eb...ucts-C920.html Another one writes about the confusion concerning the resolution. As far as I understood, the reader has a 800x600 ppi and with subpixel-dithering it makes out of it 1600x1200 dpi. 9.68" x >200 dpi ~= sqrt(1600^2 + 1200^2) Last edited by Backi; 01-03-2012 at 01:32 PM.

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PF4Mobile Guru Posts: 629 Karma: 3526 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Nook Touch, EEE 800 Note, Entourage PE, finally M92	Thanks Ken I already checked those pages, I could not find much there and their forums seems to receive less traffic that this one... Do they reply to questions on their own forum?

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PF4Mobile Guru Posts: 629 Karma: 3526 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Nook Touch, EEE 800 Note, Entourage PE, finally M92	Thanks Ken I looked at that too. (mobile foxit ). I am now reading the russian forum for this device. They are quite frustrated and they are waiting for the US version to be released this month hopping that this new release will fix issues. The reader seem to be based on Hanvon hardware and I was reading also that this one has problems with the software. Apparently whatever is software written in China is not very good. I think that the device is hackable and sooner or later they will "root" the device to say so. I am about to pull the trigger for an Onyx M92, that sells for 439$ shipping included hoping to pay no taxes This one (jetBook Color) is 500$+taxes+shipping and handling. Not sure if I want to wait to have a clearer picture about what this one can do. According with the specs it does a lot. I would need to find out more about PDF functionality and clarify that resolution issue...

01-03-2012, 01:35 PM	#15
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,465 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	There are a number of choices for reading PDFs in this price range and display size. The street pricing tends to drop after the initial release. If you don't need the e-ink ability to read in the sun, their are plenty of Honeycomb 10" display color LCD devices. I have the ASUS Pad Transformer myself, but I like the Toshiba Thrive's specs better. The jetBook Color has the distinction of being the first Color E-Ink eReader of this size. Luck; Ken

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