MobileRead Forums
Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Kobo Reader
Reload this Page Tolino similarities to Kobo

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-24-2024, 11:09 AM   #1
PeterT
Grand Sorcerer
PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
PeterT's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,326
Karma: 74007256
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto
Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS
Tolino similarities to Kobo
I've not been praying too much attention to the new Tolino devices and their relationship to the Kobo devices but I'm curious about a few things.

I presume they appear to the host pc as a USB storage device and not an MTP device.

Do they utilize a database on the device like Kobo devices, and where is this database located?

Is the database the same schema as we're used to?

What USB ID do they present to the host?

Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk
PeterT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 02:34 AM   #2
rantanplan
Weirdo
rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 691
Karma: 8910012
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Wuppertal, Germany
Device: Tolino Shine Color, Tolino Vision 6, Kobo Clara 2E, Boox Note Air 2+
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
Is the database the same schema as we're used to?
This is only true for the latest models with the "new software".
It's a newer database schema because Tolino is shipping with Firmware 5.0.x, but the general layout it identical to Kobo. E.g. I use the tool October to upload annotations from my Tolino Shine Color to readwise. I have to point the tool manually to the Kobo database (it's located in the Kobo folder, where you'd expect it to be) but then it recognizes the database just fine.

-> https://october.utf9k.net
rantanplan is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 06-25-2024, 02:48 AM   #3
beedaddy
Groupie
beedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoon
 
Posts: 161
Karma: 131606
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Germany (south-west)
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Tolino Shine 5th Gen
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
I presume they appear to the host pc as a USB storage device and not an MTP device.
Yes. No MTP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
Do they utilize a database on the device like Kobo devices, and where is this database located?
Yes. The file is located at the usual place.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
Is the database the same schema as we're used to?
As rantanplan said, they use an updated schema with firmware 5.x. There are a couple of additional tolino_* tables now. I've attached the schema.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
What USB ID do they present to the host?
I think the USB IDs are identical to the IDs of the Kobo devices. I'm not 100% sure but I think, currently Calibre identifies the new Tolinos as Kobo devices.
Attached Files
File Type: zip schema.zip (4.3 KB, 14 views)
beedaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 03:12 AM   #4
rantanplan
Weirdo
rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 691
Karma: 8910012
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Wuppertal, Germany
Device: Tolino Shine Color, Tolino Vision 6, Kobo Clara 2E, Boox Note Air 2+
IIRC (I can check later today), Kobo identifies as "Koboreader" and Tolinos as "eReader device".
rantanplan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 03:28 AM   #5
beedaddy
Groupie
beedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoonbeedaddy knows that there *is* no spoon
 
Posts: 161
Karma: 131606
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Germany (south-west)
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Tolino Shine 5th Gen
Quote:
Originally Posted by rantanplan View Post
IIRC (I can check later today), Kobo identifies as "Koboreader" and Tolinos as "eReader device".
Yes, but think the USB IDs are indeed identical.
beedaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 06-25-2024, 06:22 AM   #6
PeterT
Grand Sorcerer
PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PeterT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
PeterT's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,326
Karma: 74007256
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto
Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS
Hmm.. thanks for all that.

Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk
PeterT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 07:53 AM   #7
rantanplan
Weirdo
rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 691
Karma: 8910012
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Wuppertal, Germany
Device: Tolino Shine Color, Tolino Vision 6, Kobo Clara 2E, Boox Note Air 2+
Quote:
Originally Posted by beedaddy View Post
Yes, but think the USB IDs are indeed identical.
You're right.
rantanplan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 09:16 AM   #8
DNSB
Bibliophagist
DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DNSB's Avatar
 
Posts: 37,165
Karma: 148321048
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
Quote:
Originally Posted by rantanplan View Post
IIRC (I can check later today), Kobo identifies as "Koboreader" and Tolinos as "eReader device".
That may be because the 3 new Kobo models have the same USB ID and calibre uses the version file in the .kobo directory to determine the model.
DNSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can I convert a Tolino into a kobo? Jane Eyre Tolino 2 05-07-2024 12:16 PM
Tolino will have three the same models as Kobo Cyfranek Tolino 5 04-12-2024 09:58 AM
Tolino, Kobo or something else? firefoxxy Which one should I buy? 19 12-02-2016 02:21 PM
Kindle vs Kobo after Tolino c123 Which one should I buy? 6 09-30-2016 09:46 AM
A brief history of the tramp-stamp (& other similarities) on urban fantasy covers Over Lounge 12 12-08-2008 07:27 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:09 PM.

Contact Us - FAQ - Guidelines - Privacy - Top

MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.