Demo: Jetbook mini official demo

bookwarm · 09-13-2010, 09:11 AM

I found this in ECTACO's site. It seems that the official price (in US) is 99$ pretty competitive price and still less than K3, the SD slot is just for 2GB (instead of 16GB in the lite) but it seems better in all of the other aspects. It will last ~90hours with energizerlithium batteries.

Anyhow here is the video (an english one at last):

steven522 · 09-13-2010, 09:52 AM

Hmm...
So the Mini only views TXT and FB2 files? Not a biggie for me as I tend to convert everything to TXT anyway. But I can picture a lot of people ranting about this already.

bookwarm · 09-13-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by steven522

Hmm...
So the Mini only views TXT and FB2 files? Not a biggie for me as I tend to convert everything to TXT anyway. But I can picture a lot of people ranting about this already.

I didn't notice that... thats mean no ability to read DRMed books out of the box experience. I guess they "crippled" the mini in order to keep the JBL attractive

Flyingredgoat · 09-13-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by steven522

Hmm...
So the Mini only views TXT and FB2 files? Not a biggie for me as I tend to convert everything to TXT anyway. But I can picture a lot of people ranting about this already.

Not ranting, but I'm surprised it doesn't handle pdf's. Needed those for technical documents in the field.

Oh well, just have to stick with a jbl.

I'm wondering, why they didn't use the same software that the jbl does though. A little tweak to replace the number keys w/ a cursor menu and voila.

My guess is that this is the result of the 3 month development that the mini received. The software updates should remedy this.

frg

steven522 · 09-13-2010, 03:14 PM

I was just wondering to myself why they decided on FB2 as a second format. Wouldn't the open source EPUB be better even without DRM capabilites? Or would that require the ability to handle other formats as well, such as HTML?

Ken Maltby · 09-13-2010, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven522

I was just wondering to myself why they decided on FB2 as a second format. Wouldn't the open source EPUB be better even without DRM capabilites? Or would that require the ability to handle other formats as well, such as HTML?

It is somewhat curious.

ePub = zipped HTML

HTML = Hypertext Markup Language

XML = eXtended Markup Language ( extended HTML )

FB2 = XML

All the ML file formats are really .txt

Luck;
Ken

bookwarm · 09-13-2010, 06:20 PM

I'm so glad i didn't wait for the mini. pdf reading capability and 16GB sd extension was what made JBL apealing (plus supporting many languages)

adreamer · 09-14-2010, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven522

I was just wondering to myself why they decided on FB2 as a second format. Wouldn't the open source EPUB be better even without DRM capabilites? Or would that require the ability to handle other formats as well, such as HTML?

I read somewhere that FB2 is the most popular format in Russia.

Ken Maltby · 09-14-2010, 02:21 AM

Hmm... The original demo was from a Moscow trade show.

Maybe there could be different firmware versions for different markets.

If Adobe isn't charging too much for use of the Adobe Reader Mobile that is in the current
JBL, and if the processor and memory will support it, that would be the most logical one
to have for the US market. (But I would still miss PDB support with that approach.)

Luck;
Ken

steven522 · 09-14-2010, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Maltby

Maybe there could be different firmware versions for different markets.

The demo above mentions using calibre to get other format spport and the ectaco site states for pre-orders of the mini that only TXT and FB2 are natively supported.

Begemot · 09-14-2010, 07:43 AM

From the official Ectaco page http://www.ectaco.com/jetbook-mini-black/ : Support for LIT, MOBI, EPUB, HTML, PRC, RTF, PDB, PDF via Calibre conversion to TXT and FB2.

I imagine the limited format support is partially because the processor must be less powerful than JBL. Surely, it is not because someone is afraid of cannibalizing Jetbook and JBL sales...

Still, Calibre conversion of PDF to TXT ? That is not going to look pretty, none of the pdf to txt conversions, I have done, have come out well on my Libre. Then again, this is regular txt we are talking about.

On the other hand, I am extremely happy how PDF reflow is handled on my Libre.

GhostHawk · 09-14-2010, 08:52 AM

I actually read all my .pdf's as .txt with no real issues.

Granted sometimes after I convert to .txt I'll open the book in Word and save as .rtf.
Seems to do a better job of fixing some formating errors. Not that it gets them all, but then I'm not fussy.

I suspect the Mini will get a firmware change for more format types in time.

imaredr · 09-14-2010, 09:13 AM

I am disappointed by the initial 2 color choices. I can understand the black mini, but the bright yellow is just too loud. Does anyone know when other color choices will be available?

Ellen

steven522 · 09-14-2010, 11:05 AM

Actually the bright yellow gives it that "industrial" look.

ltucci1924 · 09-14-2010, 04:06 PM

Does this mean that I will have to convert my epub stuff to fb2 or tex. The mini cant use epub. I have only used epub and dont know how fb2 is.

09-13-2010, 09:11 AM	#1
bookwarm Member Posts: 22 Karma: 360 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: none	Demo: Jetbook mini official demo I found this in ECTACO's site. It seems that the official price (in US) is 99$ pretty competitive price and still less than K3, the SD slot is just for 2GB (instead of 16GB in the lite) but it seems better in all of the other aspects. It will last ~90hours with energizerlithium batteries. Anyhow here is the video (an english one at last):

09-14-2010, 02:21 AM	#9
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,465 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	Hmm... The original demo was from a Moscow trade show. Maybe there could be different firmware versions for different markets. If Adobe isn't charging too much for use of the Adobe Reader Mobile that is in the current JBL, and if the processor and memory will support it, that would be the most logical one to have for the US market. (But I would still miss PDB support with that approach.) Luck; Ken Last edited by Ken Maltby; 09-14-2010 at 02:24 AM.

09-14-2010, 11:05 AM	#14
steven522 binomial: homo legentem Posts: 1,061 Karma: 25222222 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Alabama, USA Device: iriver Story HD; Archos 80 G9	Actually the bright yellow gives it that "industrial" look. Last edited by steven522; 09-14-2010 at 11:28 AM.

09-14-2010, 04:06 PM	#15
ltucci1924 Member Posts: 24 Karma: 90 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SOUTH PHILA PA Device: JETBOOK MINI RB	epub Does this mean that I will have to convert my epub stuff to fb2 or tex. The mini cant use epub. I have only used epub and dont know how fb2 is.

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09-13-2010, 09:52 AM	#2
steven522 binomial: homo legentem Posts: 1,061 Karma: 25222222 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Alabama, USA Device: iriver Story HD; Archos 80 G9	Hmm... So the Mini only views TXT and FB2 files? Not a biggie for me as I tend to convert everything to TXT anyway. But I can picture a lot of people ranting about this already.

09-13-2010, 03:14 PM	#5
steven522 binomial: homo legentem Posts: 1,061 Karma: 25222222 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Alabama, USA Device: iriver Story HD; Archos 80 G9	I was just wondering to myself why they decided on FB2 as a second format. Wouldn't the open source EPUB be better even without DRM capabilites? Or would that require the ability to handle other formats as well, such as HTML?

09-13-2010, 06:20 PM	#7
bookwarm Member Posts: 22 Karma: 360 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: none	I'm so glad i didn't wait for the mini. pdf reading capability and 16GB sd extension was what made JBL apealing (plus supporting many languages)

09-14-2010, 07:43 AM	#11
Begemot Zealot Posts: 111 Karma: 18638 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Sony DPT-S1, Kindle DX, iPad, Kobo Mini,H20,iRiver StoryHD	From the official Ectaco page http://www.ectaco.com/jetbook-mini-black/ : Support for LIT, MOBI, EPUB, HTML, PRC, RTF, PDB, PDF via Calibre conversion to TXT and FB2. I imagine the limited format support is partially because the processor must be less powerful than JBL. Surely, it is not because someone is afraid of cannibalizing Jetbook and JBL sales... Still, Calibre conversion of PDF to TXT ? That is not going to look pretty, none of the pdf to txt conversions, I have done, have come out well on my Libre. Then again, this is regular txt we are talking about. On the other hand, I am extremely happy how PDF reflow is handled on my Libre.

09-14-2010, 08:52 AM	#12
GhostHawk Data Privateer! Posts: 586 Karma: 62887 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fargo ND Device: Ectaco Jetbook& Jetbook Lite	I actually read all my .pdf's as .txt with no real issues. Granted sometimes after I convert to .txt I'll open the book in Word and save as .rtf. Seems to do a better job of fixing some formating errors. Not that it gets them all, but then I'm not fussy. I suspect the Mini will get a firmware change for more format types in time.

09-14-2010, 09:13 AM	#13
imaredr Collector Posts: 441 Karma: 1002238 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Harker Heights, Texas Device: Cybook	I am disappointed by the initial 2 color choices. I can understand the black mini, but the bright yellow is just too loud. Does anyone know when other color choices will be available? Ellen

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