can't get plucker desktop to work with rss feeds

darchon · 08-31-2005, 05:55 PM

i can't seem to get plucker desktop to work with rss feeds. it loads fine on my desktop RSS reader but when i put the same url in plucker desktop, it doesn't retrieve the feed properly and doesn't descend links.

Chaos · 08-31-2005, 07:15 PM

Plucker desktop doesn't support RSS (currently, anyway). You'll have to look for another way to use RSS feeds with Plucker.

If you have access to a PHP-capable web server, and know a bit of PHP, you could try to format it into basic HTML using Magpie RSS, or something similar, and then grab that with Plucker. Just be sure to use the caching options, as most websites don't like having their RSS feeds hit more than once every 30 minutes (Slashdot, in particular, is very strict about this.)

hacker · 09-01-2005, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos

Just be sure to use the caching options, as most websites don't like having their RSS feeds hit more than once every 30 minutes (Slashdot, in particular, is very strict about this.)

Ironic you should mention that... I'm writing a paper that is titled "Why RSS Sucks", and is specifically targeted at the 99% of users and feed readers that ignore the entire point of RSS.. to syndicate news. The paper goes through the various types of RSS (there are 7 formats), and how they're delivered (details on each header, etc.) and how 99% of the readers out there completely misbehave when revisiting feeds.

We are seeing roughly 800 separate readers and agents hitting our rss feeds every hour even though the content on those feeds hasn't changed in weeks. Not only does the "Expires:" header specify a 2-week revisit interval but the ETag hasn't changed at all in months for some of the stale news articles.

And yet these readers still pound the feed almost every hour. I've just started blocking them en-masse. If they can't learn to use the standards, they can use them on someone else's pipe.

Code:

# iptables-save | grep "dport 80" | wc -l
     622

(Some of these are entire /24 CIDRs)

37lIUx7Yx4Y · 09-21-2005, 05:16 PM

JPluck + Sunrise

are both distillers that export to plucker .PDB format

I can confirm that JPluck will process RSS feeds

http://jpluck.sourceforge.net/

JPluck is free and Open Source

steverosen · 01-22-2006, 01:34 PM

I switched to Sunrise free distiller (version 42i), which does handle RSS feeds. Its output is read by plucker.

08-31-2005, 05:55 PM	#1
darchon Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2005	can't get plucker desktop to work with rss feeds i can't seem to get plucker desktop to work with rss feeds. it loads fine on my desktop RSS reader but when i put the same url in plucker desktop, it doesn't retrieve the feed properly and doesn't descend links.

09-21-2005, 05:16 PM	#4
37lIUx7Yx4Y jPlucker Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: pilot 1000 , IIIxe , tapwave zodiac , Nokia 770	JPluck + Sunrise JPluck + Sunrise are both distillers that export to plucker .PDB format I can confirm that JPluck will process RSS feeds http://jpluck.sourceforge.net/ JPluck is free and Open Source

01-22-2006, 01:34 PM	#5
steverosen Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: Palm LifeDrive	Try using Sunrise distiller instead I switched to Sunrise free distiller (version 42i), which does handle RSS feeds. Its output is read by plucker.

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08-31-2005, 07:15 PM	#2
Chaos Evangelist Posts: 418 Karma: 281 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Device: Assorted older devices	Plucker desktop doesn't support RSS (currently, anyway). You'll have to look for another way to use RSS feeds with Plucker. If you have access to a PHP-capable web server, and know a bit of PHP, you could try to format it into basic HTML using Magpie RSS, or something similar, and then grab that with Plucker. Just be sure to use the caching options, as most websites don't like having their RSS feeds hit more than once every 30 minutes (Slashdot, in particular, is very strict about this.)

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