02-18-2007, 08:15 AM | #1 |
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Courses - Scorm - Forms possible - interesting tool?
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I'm responsable for looking new technology in education. I have 2 questions because I want to be sure if the Irex is interesting for what i look for. a) What is the system to fill in forms? For example we have for our trainees to fill in some forms now in word. But can the iLiad be used to fill in them? How should it be done? Is there a possibility to convert to word forms? b) In e-learningenvironments people use scorm packages. Is it possible to put them also on the iLiad? Because learning is not only Can someone test it. You can easily create a scorm package with the open source software: exelearning. It would be great if the iLiad can play such files. |
02-19-2007, 03:26 AM | #2 | ||
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1) The iLiad allows for annotation in files which is saved separately in a vector-based format and (if you use a PNG-Bitmap as stationary) as a PNG-bitmap. These are open standards that could be used and converted to mostly any graphical file format automatically. For example: You could print your form to a GIF-File, convert it to PNG and put it on the iLiad. The user would then open the file on the iLiad, fill in the form, repeat this as many times as necessary and end up with a directory of PNG-Files of filled-in forms which could be uploaded automatically (The iLiad has WLAN.). This would be very easy to implement, I use parts of this approach myself. 2) The iLiad System is based on Linux, the X11 graphical system and GTK widget-toolkit. The Software Development Kit is available for free. Since these components are extremely extremely common, building an application that suits your needs should be possible for any software developer who is used to Linux/X11/GTK. 3) The iLiad does not have a system that is specifically designed to filling in forms. However, see 1 and 2. Quote:
However, today the iLiad only comes with applications to viewing (complex) html, pdf and different image formats. #!chris |
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02-19-2007, 03:37 AM | #3 | |
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This will hopefully change soon, per irex promises, but right now there is no way to implement anything like that easily and still retain full warranty for the box. |
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02-19-2007, 05:50 AM | #4 | |
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Case 1: accessing an external CMS server Short reply: Not yet, but feasible in the future (accessing via wifi...) Long reply: In the iliad there are two web browsers, dillo (very simple) and minimo (based on firefox, but the iliad version is crippled in many ways, so it's not suitable for web browsing). I don't think that either one will work for e-learning but for the most simple pages of the CMS. In the future it would be possible to get firefox running in the iliad, but don't count on having that soon (and AFAICT, it'll need a beefy SD card with a Debian installation and some software that's not yet written so that to use that in the illiad... and firefox is very slow to boot on those devices, if my experience with debian on the zaurus is translatable to the iliad). Case 2: Both the browser and the CMS server on the iliad I just don't know the requirements of those servers (docebo, dockeos, atutor...). If they are not too demanding (i.e. not based on apache/php, but in C/C++), it should be possible to run them in the iliad... but as I said, I don't know. Hope it clarifies anything . Last edited by Antartica; 02-19-2007 at 05:54 AM. Reason: Typos (ugh!) |
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02-19-2007, 07:07 AM | #5 | |
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By this, pressing the update-button makes the iLiad execute your script. I installed something like this months ago and use it multiple times a day to make my iLiad download the newspaper I'm subscribed to and to make it upload the notes I take during the day. Of course this should be only implemented by people who feel comfortable with the commandline, but it requires no magical secret power. Last edited by k2r; 02-19-2007 at 07:22 AM. Reason: s/subscribet/subscribed/ |
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02-19-2007, 09:09 AM | #7 | |
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By the way, that scribble-stuff was nicely done. Would you mind sharing the scripts, k2r? Or have you posted them somewhere already? |
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Regarding form entry, the Vision Objects software iRex has licensed is supposed to allow limited HWR directly on the iLiad. Full page recognition isn't supported yet, but forms should be. I don't know if it would be feasible to get this working directly in the browser, but that's what I'd shoot for. Though most SCORM-based assessments are multiple-choice, anyway. |
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02-20-2007, 03:27 AM | #11 | |
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transfer files in 2.9: will it obsolete the need for a card reader?
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Note that in terms of SCORM - this is a packaging standard - WHAT you put in your SCORM package needs to be able to be unpacked and displayed.
In terms of the Iliad - it cannot read SCORM packages - also it has a very limited set of file format it can currently read, even it it could unpack ... It's unlikely that SCORM support would be ported? |
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02-20-2007, 09:31 AM | #14 | |
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I do no pdf-notes merging since I don't need it (yet), I just upload my .png notes and organize them automatically in some folders using their name. I don't even use rsync but I'm planning on doing so since I wan't to have a simple two-way-mirror of my iLiad's /mnt/free and /mnt/card to drop in stuff (documents) that get transferred to the iLiad automagically the next time I sync. You see why I didn't publish the convolute yet, they depend on the scripts on my server and I haven't bothered writing a save way to install the part on the iLiad. I really should polish them a little, but you might be way better off waiting for 2.9. I'm curious whether iRex' solution will be platform independant. However, if I was to implement a straight forward way to fill in graphical forms this is exactly the kind of solution I'd present first. It's easy to implement in a few days on any given number of iLiads. #!chris |
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