How and Where to Publish Your Ebooks

emellaich · 08-22-2009, 12:26 PM

Hello all, excuse me for sneaking into this writers-only chit chat.

Over in "News and Commentary" Ficbot began an interesting thread, and zelda_pinwheel suggested I bring the conversation over here, so here I am.

Ficbot had noted that so many new authors seemed to publish exclusively for the Kindle, and that this frustrated him as a non-Kindle owner. My response was that the publishing learning curve might be pretty steep for newcomers to the industry.

We might want to consider adding a series of wiki articles that explain the steps in publishing. Everything from creating books in different formats, pro's and con's of different publishing web sites, and even opportunities to market your book without spamming. In the interest of starting this effort, zelda_pinwheel suggested this post. I welcome your inputs to a guide for writers. Please feel free to add your thoughts and comments to this thread, or even to add pages to the wiki that we can pull together into our writer's guide.

I am looking for both topics that writers need to understand as well as explanations and/or suggestions on those topics.

Here is my initial list of topics / wiki pages

First, an intro to ebook publishing that introduces the key concepts and links to separate pages that then explain:
1) Different formats for ebooks and the tradeoffs
2) How to convert between formats: Calibre, Sigil, and more
3) DRM and the problems of using it
4) Web sites that accept self-published books; the pro's and con's of each and where to go to submit books.
5) Options for setting up your own store using your own web site and paypal or ebay or google checkout????
6) Marketing your ebook including does and don'ts on Mobileread

Your thoughts?

P.s. If you'd prefer to simply contribute your thoughts as a new page in the wiki, then go here:
https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Main_Page
In the search box to the left type in the name of your new page. When it comes up as a missing search term, you will be given the option of creating a page with that name. If you do take that approach, please report back to this thread to let us know what pages you have added.

zelda_pinwheel · 08-22-2009, 12:31 PM

thanks very much for this thread emellaich, it has the potential to be a really valuable ressource for all the independent writers around here (and there are more every day !).

so, now it's time for everybody to add their tips, knowledge, info, good addresses and best practices ! a good idea to start might be to follow the subjects from emellaich's list and add whatever info you have about the point(s) in your post.

this would also be an excellent page for the wiki, under "how to self-publish" or "tips for independent writers" or something.

i've stuck this thread so it will be easy to find.

ahi · 08-22-2009, 12:41 PM

Excellent idea! Anybody knows what sort of distribution LSI offers for eBooks (if any)?

- Ahi

Winter · 08-23-2009, 09:01 AM

I'll weigh in with my experience regarding DRM -- it's not worth it. The technology is unreliable and will work against you far more than it will ever do in your favour.

The only reason big companies (book publishers, video game publishers, etc.) get away with DRM is because their customer base has no choice but to accept it to get the product they want. The challenge for a small author, however, is to get people to want your product in the first place.

The simple fact is, people don't like jumping through hoops, especially when they're paying good money for the privilege. The desire to protect your work is understandable, but it's not realistic. Producing content on the internet is like being one voice in a choir of millions all fighting to be heard. If anyone actually wants to steal your work, they can and they will -- but if you make it difficult for honest readers to get to your content, they have so many other options available that they're not going to want the hassle of dealing with a crippled file. Some people refuse to use anything with DRM on it as a matter of principle.

The big thing at the heart of the DRM fallacy is that DRM doesn't deter pirates, but it does put off honest people who deserve to be able to use the file they bought without added headaches. It's worth remembering.

Regards,
Ryan

nomesque · 08-23-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emellaich

6) Marketing your ebook including does and don'ts on Mobileread

Something I haven't mentioned here on MR is that I run a twitter account called @onlinefiction, which promotes free, available-online fiction by posting quick blurbs + links. People can submit their links via DM on twitter. Not incredibly useful to anyone selling their work, of course.

nomesque · 08-23-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smashwords

Let me know how I can help!

I don't know about others, but I'd be interested to know about the relative popularity of various formats on Smashwords...?

Be Szpilman · 08-23-2009, 09:44 PM

This is a great idea of a thread, I'm watching it closely -- seems to me good and new answers to those questions can be valuable not only to authors!

Jack Tingle · 08-24-2009, 11:04 AM

Speaking as a customer (reader) here's my $0.02. Note that I don't use a dedicated reading device, but read on a variety of devices.

1) Different formats for ebooks and the tradeoffs
a) best for reading: MS .lit - unfortunately, MS Reader is moribund and unsupported.
b) best DRMed format: .prc/.mobi is simple, compact, and almost universally usable. Also very good non-DRM.
c) best non-DRM: .rtf - same virtues as .prc, a little larger, and much more flexible
d) other useable formats: eReader, PalmDoc, tagged PDF with very plain settings and no ligatures
...
3) DRM and the problems of using it
I don't - personal policy. It's too much trouble and potential data loss. If you DRM your books, I won't be a customer. Sorry.

The other issues are author-specific, and as a courtesy to the Western canon, I've never published any of my fiction.

As an aside, I buy mostly from Fictionwise and Baen, but have no particular axe to grind against other commercial sites. Some work well, some work less well. I'd suggest authors have any free content available on their web site, to eliminate certain kinds of infrastructure hassles that can annoy customers. I'd also suggest you be careful with free content. If you give it to me for nothing, I'll gladly take it, but I may not buy anything else, even if I like your work. This is simply because the next guy is also offering free stuff that takes up my time. I have to really like your work to go back and buy the next novel you have for sale.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

Moejoe · 08-24-2009, 11:07 AM

Feedbooks FTW!

_windy · 08-24-2009, 04:13 PM

This is a great idea! I've been wanting to provide downloads on my website, but the format choices and the methods for doing so are baffling me. I'm not sure I want smashwords, and I'd love a comprehensive rundown of what's popular.

BearMountainBooks · 08-31-2009, 09:50 PM

I posted this on another thread, but in answer to someone's question about popular formats, smashwords did a survey:

http://blog.smashwords.com/2009/03/w...ks-matter.html

Edward Patterson published this helpful guide on publishing ebooks (his experiences and recommendations and he has a lot to say) It happens to be a free download, making it even more useful:

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/316

Me, I'm still learning. I can say that the biggest problem is finding a place where enough readers go. Amazon works very well for that precise reason. Tons of readers go there. For any other format, it's a battle to find the readers because there are simply too many sites--it's impossible to go to all of them to get one or two or 10 readers.

It's also a changing scene with new devices coming out and new converts to e-books joining daily!

Maria
Sage: (multiple formats; Amazon or Smashwords--$1.00)
Catch an Honest Thief (Kindle only format: $1.99; a cozy mystery)

ahi · 09-01-2009, 10:43 AM

Sorry, Hadrien, you lost me... in practical terms what's OPDS about?

- Ahi

Hadrien · 09-01-2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahi

Sorry, Hadrien, you lost me... in practical terms what's OPDS about?

- Ahi

It's a standard for e-book distribution. That's the core technology that we use for our integration with Stanza (iPhone) and Aldiko (Android).

JSWolf · 09-01-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BearMountainBooks

I posted this on another thread, but in answer to someone's question about popular formats, smashwords did a survey:

http://blog.smashwords.com/2009/03/w...ks-matter.html

Edward Patterson published this helpful guide on publishing ebooks (his experiences and recommendations and he has a lot to say) It happens to be a free download, making it even more useful:

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/316

Me, I'm still learning. I can say that the biggest problem is finding a place where enough readers go. Amazon works very well for that precise reason. Tons of readers go there. For any other format, it's a battle to find the readers because there are simply too many sites--it's impossible to go to all of them to get one or two or 10 readers.

It's also a changing scene with new devices coming out and new converts to e-books joining daily!

Maria
Sage: (multiple formats; Amazon or Smashwords--$1.00)
Catch an Honest Thief (Kindle only format: $1.99; a cozy mystery)

The thing with Feedbooks is that their conversions are overall better than Smashwords. So (personally), I'd prefer books from Feedbooks overall.

BearMountainBooks · 09-01-2009, 11:07 AM

JS Wolf--thanks for that feedback. I've heard others talk about feedbook as well. I'll have to check them (and their inventory!)

Maria

08-22-2009, 12:26 PM	#1
emellaich Wizard Posts: 1,101 Karma: 4388403 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Palm>Ebookman>IPaq>Axim>Cybook>Kndl2>IPAD>Kndl3SO>Voyager>Oasis	How and Where to Publish Your Ebooks Hello all, excuse me for sneaking into this writers-only chit chat. Over in "News and Commentary" Ficbot began an interesting thread, and zelda_pinwheel suggested I bring the conversation over here, so here I am. Ficbot had noted that so many new authors seemed to publish exclusively for the Kindle, and that this frustrated him as a non-Kindle owner. My response was that the publishing learning curve might be pretty steep for newcomers to the industry. We might want to consider adding a series of wiki articles that explain the steps in publishing. Everything from creating books in different formats, pro's and con's of different publishing web sites, and even opportunities to market your book without spamming. In the interest of starting this effort, zelda_pinwheel suggested this post. I welcome your inputs to a guide for writers. Please feel free to add your thoughts and comments to this thread, or even to add pages to the wiki that we can pull together into our writer's guide. I am looking for both topics that writers need to understand as well as explanations and/or suggestions on those topics. Here is my initial list of topics / wiki pages First, an intro to ebook publishing that introduces the key concepts and links to separate pages that then explain: 1) Different formats for ebooks and the tradeoffs 2) How to convert between formats: Calibre, Sigil, and more 3) DRM and the problems of using it 4) Web sites that accept self-published books; the pro's and con's of each and where to go to submit books. 5) Options for setting up your own store using your own web site and paypal or ebay or google checkout???? 6) Marketing your ebook including does and don'ts on Mobileread Your thoughts? P.s. If you'd prefer to simply contribute your thoughts as a new page in the wiki, then go here: https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Main_Page In the search box to the left type in the name of your new page. When it comes up as a missing search term, you will be given the option of creating a page with that name. If you do take that approach, please report back to this thread to let us know what pages you have added.

08-23-2009, 09:44 PM	#7
Be Szpilman Fetch that LRF Posts: 63 Karma: 44 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: Sony Reader PRS-505, Treo 650	This is a great idea of a thread, I'm watching it closely -- seems to me good and new answers to those questions can be valuable not only to authors! Last edited by Be Szpilman; 10-09-2009 at 10:22 AM.

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08-22-2009, 12:31 PM	#2
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	thanks very much for this thread emellaich, it has the potential to be a really valuable ressource for all the independent writers around here (and there are more every day !). so, now it's time for everybody to add their tips, knowledge, info, good addresses and best practices ! a good idea to start might be to follow the subjects from emellaich's list and add whatever info you have about the point(s) in your post. this would also be an excellent page for the wiki, under "how to self-publish" or "tips for independent writers" or something. i've stuck this thread so it will be easy to find.

08-22-2009, 12:41 PM	#3
ahi Wizard Posts: 1,790 Karma: 507333 Join Date: May 2009 Device: none	Excellent idea! Anybody knows what sort of distribution LSI offers for eBooks (if any)? - Ahi

08-23-2009, 09:01 AM	#4
Winter Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 40000 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Asus EeePC	I'll weigh in with my experience regarding DRM -- it's not worth it. The technology is unreliable and will work against you far more than it will ever do in your favour. The only reason big companies (book publishers, video game publishers, etc.) get away with DRM is because their customer base has no choice but to accept it to get the product they want. The challenge for a small author, however, is to get people to want your product in the first place. The simple fact is, people don't like jumping through hoops, especially when they're paying good money for the privilege. The desire to protect your work is understandable, but it's not realistic. Producing content on the internet is like being one voice in a choir of millions all fighting to be heard. If anyone actually wants to steal your work, they can and they will -- but if you make it difficult for honest readers to get to your content, they have so many other options available that they're not going to want the hassle of dealing with a crippled file. Some people refuse to use anything with DRM on it as a matter of principle. The big thing at the heart of the DRM fallacy is that DRM doesn't deter pirates, but it does put off honest people who deserve to be able to use the file they bought without added headaches. It's worth remembering. Regards, Ryan

08-24-2009, 11:04 AM	#8
Jack Tingle Punctuation Fetishist Posts: 557 Karma: 1070000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Bluest Commonwealth In East America Device: Kindle PW, Nexus 7 (2013), Galaxy S5 phone, Galaxy Tab 4 8.0	Speaking as a customer (reader) here's my $0.02. Note that I don't use a dedicated reading device, but read on a variety of devices. 1) Different formats for ebooks and the tradeoffs a) best for reading: MS .lit - unfortunately, MS Reader is moribund and unsupported. b) best DRMed format: .prc/.mobi is simple, compact, and almost universally usable. Also very good non-DRM. c) best non-DRM: .rtf - same virtues as .prc, a little larger, and much more flexible d) other useable formats: eReader, PalmDoc, tagged PDF with very plain settings and no ligatures ... 3) DRM and the problems of using it I don't - personal policy. It's too much trouble and potential data loss. If you DRM your books, I won't be a customer. Sorry. The other issues are author-specific, and as a courtesy to the Western canon, I've never published any of my fiction. As an aside, I buy mostly from Fictionwise and Baen, but have no particular axe to grind against other commercial sites. Some work well, some work less well. I'd suggest authors have any free content available on their web site, to eliminate certain kinds of infrastructure hassles that can annoy customers. I'd also suggest you be careful with free content. If you give it to me for nothing, I'll gladly take it, but I may not buy anything else, even if I like your work. This is simply because the next guy is also offering free stuff that takes up my time. I have to really like your work to go back and buy the next novel you have for sale. Regards, Jack Tingle

08-24-2009, 11:07 AM	#9
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	Feedbooks FTW!

08-24-2009, 04:13 PM	#10
_windy Frances Posts: 27 Karma: 282 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: none	This is a great idea! I've been wanting to provide downloads on my website, but the format choices and the methods for doing so are baffling me. I'm not sure I want smashwords, and I'd love a comprehensive rundown of what's popular.

08-31-2009, 09:50 PM	#11
BearMountainBooks Maria Schneider Posts: 3,746 Karma: 26439330 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Device: 3g Kindle Keyboard	I posted this on another thread, but in answer to someone's question about popular formats, smashwords did a survey: http://blog.smashwords.com/2009/03/w...ks-matter.html Edward Patterson published this helpful guide on publishing ebooks (his experiences and recommendations and he has a lot to say) It happens to be a free download, making it even more useful: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/316 Me, I'm still learning. I can say that the biggest problem is finding a place where enough readers go. Amazon works very well for that precise reason. Tons of readers go there. For any other format, it's a battle to find the readers because there are simply too many sites--it's impossible to go to all of them to get one or two or 10 readers. It's also a changing scene with new devices coming out and new converts to e-books joining daily! Maria Sage: (multiple formats; Amazon or Smashwords--$1.00) Catch an Honest Thief (Kindle only format: $1.99; a cozy mystery)

09-01-2009, 10:43 AM	#12
ahi Wizard Posts: 1,790 Karma: 507333 Join Date: May 2009 Device: none	Sorry, Hadrien, you lost me... in practical terms what's OPDS about? - Ahi

09-01-2009, 11:07 AM	#15
BearMountainBooks Maria Schneider Posts: 3,746 Karma: 26439330 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Device: 3g Kindle Keyboard	JS Wolf--thanks for that feedback. I've heard others talk about feedbook as well. I'll have to check them (and their inventory!) Maria

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