Books removed from fictionwise?

chlorine · 03-31-2010, 04:51 PM

It seems that my wishlist on fictionwise is suddenly half as small as it used to be. Upon investigation, it looks some books are no longer on sale, e.g. all books by Scott Westerfeld some of which were on my wishlist?

One book from him I bought is still displayed on my bookshelf but when I try to download it I get the following error: Error : Download is not authorized for this retailer.

Anybody knows what happened, and how many books are affected? Is it retailing to this 'agency model pricing' I've been hearing about?

EDIT: And of course this happens the very day I want to buy the last tome of a a fantasy trilogy I'm really enjoying! How frustrating!

EDIT again: Never mind me, I found the relevant thread on the general forum. Mods feel free to remove this post, sorry about the disturbance.

rleguillow · 03-31-2010, 04:56 PM

Whoa. I just reported something similar at eReader.com.
See Disappearing books at eReader.com Under the General forum.

advocate2 · 03-31-2010, 05:09 PM

Not only have titles been cut back, the formats available for certain titles have also be reduced.

phenomshel · 03-31-2010, 06:27 PM

Expect this at all ebook retailers. Until the publisher's new Agency Model pricing structure can be implemented, your wishlists and the selection available will both suffer disappearances.

sianon · 03-31-2010, 06:31 PM

It appears that the cause of the disapearing titles is thta Hatchette have pulled all their tirles from on-line retailers. The following appears on Books on Board whe n you click the link as to wehy a title is not available for download. This is not the first time that Hatchette have done this. A couple of years ago when the furoreor geo restrictions cpmmencede, Hatchette also pulled their books.

We are sorry that your ebook download is temporarily unavailable.

Hachette (the Publisher) has pulled all of its titles, as well as its imprints, from US distribution. The Hachette imprints included in this process are:

•Hachette Audio
•Hachette Book Group
•Grand Central Publishing
•Little, Brown
•Little, Brown Adult Books
•Little, Brown and Company
•Little, Brown and Company (UK)
•Little, Brown Books for Young Readers
•FaithWords
•WindBlown Media
•Orbit
•Yen Press
•Center Street
This issue is affecting all eBook retailers and not just BooksOnBoard. We are working with our distributors to resolve this issue as soon as possible. In the meantime, please help us out by writing the publisher directly at: customer.service@hbgusa.com.

Thank you,

Your BooksOnBoard Support Team

advocate2 · 03-31-2010, 06:48 PM

If FictionWise knew this was coming, why didn't they send an email to members informing them that prices were about to be raised? They have no problem sending out email about sales.

Graham · 03-31-2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by advocate2

If FictionWise knew this was coming, why didn't they send an email to members informing them that prices were about to be raised? They have no problem sending out email about sales.

While Fictionwise probably could have handled this better, it's worth pointing out that BooksOnBoard did send out such an email and have been condemned for scaremongering in order to drive sales ahead of the change.

The fact is that the price increases will not be across the board, and the new model could also see some prices fall. It's all very confusing as it's been driven through by these five publishers at very short notice, probably in order to get the new pricing in place by the time the iPad launches.

Until the dust settles it's not at all clear what the outcome will be, and how the prices will really be affected.

It's also the imposition of sales tax on eBook sales in some states according to this new model that's going to have a significant effect on some stores and catalogues.

Graham

sianon · 03-31-2010, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham

While Fictionwise probably could have handled this better, it's worth pointing out that BooksOnBoard did send out such an email and have been condemned for scaremongering in order to drive sales ahead of the change.

The fact is that the price increases will not be across the board, and the new model could also see some prices fall. It's all very confusing as it's been driven through by these five publishers at very short notice, probably in order to get the new pricing in place by the time the iPad launches.

Until the dust settles it's not at all clear what the outcome will be, and how the prices will really be affected.

It's also the imposition of sales tax on eBook sales in some states according to this new model that's going to have a significant effect on some stores and catalogues.

Graham

I think that Fictionwise could have alerted customers to ensure that the had the opportunity to download titles if they needed to do so. However the fact that Books on Board did not, indicates that the publisher pulled the books without notice. Either way, customers have likely been disadvantaged by this move from Hatchette. Thankfully all of my books are downloaded and liberated so are still avaialble to me, but I am sure that is not the case for all of Hatchette's customers.

TallMomof2 · 03-31-2010, 08:09 PM

Is the Sales Tax going to applied to all sales or only for states where the publisher has a physical presence?

da_jane · 03-31-2010, 09:47 PM

For the states where the publishers have a "significant" presence.

ATimson · 03-31-2010, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_jane

For the states where the publishers have a "significant" presence.

So... New York?

Marcy · 03-31-2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATimson

So... New York?

I'm pretty sure that would be a big yes, since they tax businesses that don't even have a presence in NY, i.e. Amazon. I lived the first half of my life there, but am glad to be living elsewhere now, where the tax burden isn't so onerous. And the winters don't suck as much either...

-Marcy

katewilly · 04-01-2010, 01:18 AM

Yep, a lot of titles gone today. From what I could tell my Buywise membership has expired, but I had $100+ in micropay. So I spent $60 of it today, but only because those titles were still on my wishlist. I'll see if the other titles pop up tomorrow...after that I'm on to other vendors.

riemann42 · 04-01-2010, 01:28 AM

My prediction that my wishlist would get cheaper was true. However, it also got SMALLER with an increased average book price....

Before: $356 / 41 books

Now: $109.29 / 12 books

An announcement, note on home page, smoke signal, anything would have been appreciated. At least BoB and Kobo told their customers. I'll check again in the morning. If they are gone forever, FW has done a terrible disservice to their customers.

Sweetpea · 04-01-2010, 03:22 AM

I had about 40 books in my wishlist, today there were 5...

I'm done with Fictionwise. Three of those 5 books were restricted to me, the other two were multiformat. I put those in my cart and bought them with my remaining micropay.

It's sayonara Fictionwise. After 7 years of faithful buying, I've decided to leave. I hope B&N have a lot of fun in the future, I think they are ruining FW so they can close it down in favour of their own store.

03-31-2010, 04:51 PM	#1
chlorine Addict Posts: 276 Karma: 100000 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle paperwhite 2	Books removed from fictionwise? It seems that my wishlist on fictionwise is suddenly half as small as it used to be. Upon investigation, it looks some books are no longer on sale, e.g. all books by Scott Westerfeld some of which were on my wishlist? One book from him I bought is still displayed on my bookshelf but when I try to download it I get the following error: Error : Download is not authorized for this retailer. Anybody knows what happened, and how many books are affected? Is it retailing to this 'agency model pricing' I've been hearing about? EDIT: And of course this happens the very day I want to buy the last tome of a a fantasy trilogy I'm really enjoying! How frustrating! EDIT again: Never mind me, I found the relevant thread on the general forum. Mods feel free to remove this post, sorry about the disturbance. Last edited by chlorine; 03-31-2010 at 04:56 PM.

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03-31-2010, 04:56 PM	#2
rleguillow Always Reading Posts: 110 Karma: 1002645 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North Carolina Device: FW 1192, PRS-700, kobo, Rocket, PRS-650, Nook Glow, Kobo Glo, others	Whoa. I just reported something similar at eReader.com. See Disappearing books at eReader.com Under the General forum.

03-31-2010, 05:09 PM	#3
advocate2 My Kingdom for Karma Posts: 430 Karma: 7125 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Device: Sony 350, 650, 950, Nook Color	Not only have titles been cut back, the formats available for certain titles have also be reduced.

03-31-2010, 06:27 PM	#4
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	Expect this at all ebook retailers. Until the publisher's new Agency Model pricing structure can be implemented, your wishlists and the selection available will both suffer disappearances.

03-31-2010, 06:31 PM	#5
sianon Addict Posts: 352 Karma: 572 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne Device: Sony 500, Bebook, Kindle, Eco reader Drs and soon the Archos 9	It appears that the cause of the disapearing titles is thta Hatchette have pulled all their tirles from on-line retailers. The following appears on Books on Board whe n you click the link as to wehy a title is not available for download. This is not the first time that Hatchette have done this. A couple of years ago when the furoreor geo restrictions cpmmencede, Hatchette also pulled their books. We are sorry that your ebook download is temporarily unavailable. Hachette (the Publisher) has pulled all of its titles, as well as its imprints, from US distribution. The Hachette imprints included in this process are: •Hachette Audio •Hachette Book Group •Grand Central Publishing •Little, Brown •Little, Brown Adult Books •Little, Brown and Company •Little, Brown and Company (UK) •Little, Brown Books for Young Readers •FaithWords •WindBlown Media •Orbit •Yen Press •Center Street This issue is affecting all eBook retailers and not just BooksOnBoard. We are working with our distributors to resolve this issue as soon as possible. In the meantime, please help us out by writing the publisher directly at: customer.service@hbgusa.com. Thank you, Your BooksOnBoard Support Team

03-31-2010, 06:48 PM	#6
advocate2 My Kingdom for Karma Posts: 430 Karma: 7125 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Device: Sony 350, 650, 950, Nook Color	If FictionWise knew this was coming, why didn't they send an email to members informing them that prices were about to be raised? They have no problem sending out email about sales.

03-31-2010, 08:09 PM	#9
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	Is the Sales Tax going to applied to all sales or only for states where the publisher has a physical presence?

03-31-2010, 09:47 PM	#10
da_jane Evangelist Posts: 405 Karma: 692 Join Date: Sep 2006 Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 \| Kindle Paperwhite \| iPad Mini	For the states where the publishers have a "significant" presence.

04-01-2010, 01:18 AM	#13
katewilly Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 13912 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabama Device: sony 700, iTouch, iPhone, nook, iPad 2	Yep, a lot of titles gone today. From what I could tell my Buywise membership has expired, but I had $100+ in micropay. So I spent $60 of it today, but only because those titles were still on my wishlist. I'll see if the other titles pop up tomorrow...after that I'm on to other vendors.

04-01-2010, 01:28 AM	#14
riemann42 Zealot Posts: 121 Karma: 506 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Device: eSlick,nook	My prediction that my wishlist would get cheaper was true. However, it also got SMALLER with an increased average book price.... Before: $356 / 41 books Now: $109.29 / 12 books An announcement, note on home page, smoke signal, anything would have been appreciated. At least BoB and Kobo told their customers. I'll check again in the morning. If they are gone forever, FW has done a terrible disservice to their customers.

04-01-2010, 03:22 AM	#15
Sweetpea Grand Sorcerer Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6	I had about 40 books in my wishlist, today there were 5... I'm done with Fictionwise. Three of those 5 books were restricted to me, the other two were multiformat. I put those in my cart and bought them with my remaining micropay. It's sayonara Fictionwise. After 7 years of faithful buying, I've decided to leave. I hope B&N have a lot of fun in the future, I think they are ruining FW so they can close it down in favour of their own store.

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