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Old 01-11-2014, 03:09 AM   #1
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Verlagsgruppe Weltbild GmbH stellt Insolvenzantrag

Falls es noch nicht allgemein bekannt ist, die Verlagsgruppe Weltbild GmbH hat Insolvenz angemeldet. weltbild.com

Inwieweit das auch Probleme für die Tolino Allianz macht, wird abzuwarten sein. Dazu auch ein Artikel bei lesen.net

Anzuraten ist auf jeden Fall die Sicherung aller ebooks, die bei Weltbild & co. gekauft wurden.
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Old 01-11-2014, 06:27 AM   #2
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Ich finde es sehr traurig. Ich kann mich noch an die Harry Potter Aktionen von Weltbild erinnern, die waren immer sehr nett, und obwohl ich ebooks lieber lese will ich die Buchhandlungen nicht verschwinden sehen...
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Old 01-11-2014, 06:35 AM   #3
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Angeblich betrifft es nicht die Buchhandlungen, sondern nur den Weltbild Verlag selbst. Die Buchhandlungen sind wohl in einer Unterfirma, die zusammen mit Hugendubel betrieben wird, organisiert. Aber welche Verflechtungen es da noch und wirklich gibt, weiß ich auch nicht.
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Old 01-11-2014, 08:42 AM   #4
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Angeblich betrifft es nicht die Buchhandlungen, sondern nur den Weltbild Verlag selbst. Die Buchhandlungen sind wohl in einer Unterfirma, die zusammen mit Hugendubel betrieben wird, organisiert. Aber welche Verflechtungen es da noch und wirklich gibt, weiß ich auch nicht.
Die Verflechtungen sind vermutlich auch das Problem, man kann nicht einzelne Unternehmensbereiche aus den Zahlungsverpflichtungen ausklammern, hier gut zu beobachten bei der Praktiker-Pleite, die letztendlich auch Max Bahr (Baumärkte) zu Fall brachte.

Häufig sind solche Aussagen auch dazu da, um den Abverkauf nicht zu gefährden oder Angestellte vorerst zu beruhigen. Die Läden lebten ja auch ein wenig durch die günstigen Sonderausgaben des Verlages.

Um Weltbild selber trauere ich nicht, mir tut es nur Leid um die Angestellten. Auf der anderen Seite nützt es vielleicht den einzelnen Buchhandlungen, wenn eine große Kette weg fällt.
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:36 AM   #5
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Johannes Haupt (lesen.net) hat noch einen interessanten Artikel zum Thema nachgeschoben und geht vor allem nochmal auf die Auswirkungen für den Kunden ein. hier
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Nebenbei und zur Vervollständigung:

Das Aktenzeichen des Verfahrens der Insolvenzabteilung des Amtsgerichts Augsburg betreffs der Verlagsgruppe Weltbild GmbH, (Handelsregister d. Amtsgerichts Augsburg HRB 6035) lautet 6 IN 22/14. Vorläufiger Insolvenzverwalter ist Hr. Dipl.-Kfm. Arndt Geiwitz (WP,StB) aus der Großkanzlei Schneider Geiwitz & Partner, Neu-Ulm. Post: Büro Augsburg, Eserwallstr. 1-3, 86150 Augsburg. Informationen zum Verfahren gibt es dann später mal auf deren Webseite.

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Old 01-13-2014, 10:00 AM   #7
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Das bestätigt meine Unlust an Kaufbüchern mit DRM. (Ich ignoriere die einfach völlig. Es gibt auch genug inzwischen freie Bücher.) Wer es rechtzeitig mibekommt, und auch die Tragweite der Nachrichten zu deuten weiß, kann sich die Bücher noch zusätzlich auf den PC holen. Aber von den vielen technisch Unbedarften werden es sicher nicht wenige erst dann merken, wenn sie an ihre bezahlten Bücher nicht mehr herankommen.

Und das schnell noch lokal Sichern nützt auch nichts mehr, wenn es Adobe erwischen sollte. Auch Großkonzerne sind nicht vor Pleiten sicher.

Oder wenn Adobe beschließt das Produkt nicht mehr weiter zu führen. Was ja nun wirklich alltäglich passiert.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:52 AM   #8
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Oder auch nur, das Produkt einer größeren Änderung zu unterziehen, sodass die neue Version bei bestimmten Kundegruppen (beispielsweise Betriebssystem oder Lesegerät) nicht mehr funktioniert. Auch ich nehme keine DRMten Bücher in Anspruch, selbst wenn sie gratis sind.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:55 PM   #9
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Ist es denn definitiv so das die Bücher dann gesperrt sind oder sind das bisher nur Vermutungen?

Das DRM bleibt ja von der Pleite des Distributors unberührt, also müsste nur irgendwo ein Server rumstehen der die Kundendaten hat und bei den verbliebenen Downloads mitzählt.

Ausserdem ist ja soweit ich weiss nur der Verlag betroffen, nicht der Handel.
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Old 01-17-2014, 02:46 AM   #10
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Ist es denn definitiv so das die Bücher dann gesperrt sind oder sind das bisher nur Vermutungen?
Bisher gibt es gar keine konkreten Informationen und es gilt nur die allgemeine Weisheit, dass all das was nicht auf deinem eigenen Server schlummert, noch weniger deiner Kontrolle unterliegt als das.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:48 AM   #11
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Nun gibt auch noch die Telekom den eigenen Ebook-Verkauf (Pageplace) auf. lesen.net

Kunden können mit ihren Ebooks nun zu einer anderen Tolino-Cloud wechseln. Fragt sich nur zu welcher, derzeit stehen die verbleibenden Shops alle etwas unsicher da.
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:29 AM   #12
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So, nun ist es formal eröffnet, das Regelinsolvenzverfahren.

Eröffnet 01.04.2014 0:00 Uhr, Gläubigerversammlung am 17.06.2014 (bestimmt nicht um 0:00 Uhr), Prüfungstermin angemeldeter Forderungen am 25.07.2014 beim AG Augsburg. So steht es jedenfalls auf den Infoseiten bei Schneider, Geiwitz pp.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:51 AM   #13
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Ein zweites Regelinsolvenzverfahren im Weltbildkomplex:

Nach den Informationen auf der Seite von Schneider, Geiwitz pp. ist seit heute, 28.04.2014, 0:00 Uhr, auch das Regelinsolvenzverfahren über die Weltbild Plus Medienvertriebs GmbH & Co. KG zum AZ. 8 IN 207/14 beim AG Augsburg eröffnet.

Pressemitteilung der Verlagsgruppe
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