Oasis frozen

[piperclassique]

So my oasis was saying the battery was nearly flat and I put it on charge. Orange light, great, off to bed. This morning is saying battery flat and won't start. I've tried very long press on power button which gives me green light and that's all.
Any ideas?

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[piperclassique]

Huh! I thought I'd just connect it to my computer and see how dead it was, When I did just that it rebooted and started charging. Bangs head against wall. It's connected to Wi-Fi and 3g and showing recent acquisitions which it is obediently downloading. I don't understand....

[Frogm4n]

Did you use the same cable that you'd used to charge over night? It's possible that the first cable is bad or flakey.

[Deskisamess]

Plugging a seemingly dead Kindle into a computer is what we used to suggest back in the day on the old Amazon Kindle forum. It was the last gasp thing to try.

[piperclassique]

Different cable, but the other one worked on a torch that I charged later.

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[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by piperclassique

Different cable, but the other one worked on a torch that I charged later.

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How do you charge a torch? Fires don't have batteries.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

How do you charge a torch? Fires don't have batteries.

Mine does.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

How do you charge a torch? Fires don't have batteries.

Jon, for someone who seems to feel knowledgeable about language to make the comments you have made on multiple occasions, you seem to have missed on many of the differences in word usage. For instance, a torch in the UK refers to what you would likely term a flashlight and a flame on a stick. Do you consider calling the lid over your car engine and a head covering a hood to be sensible?

Given the poster shows France as their location, looking up lampe de poche (what I learned in school French) in a French/English dictionary says torch, flashlight with pointers to torche électrique, lampe électrique and lampe-éclair as alternatives.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by John F

Mine does.

All my torches use batteries, and one is rechargeable, and my fire uses wood.

Electric torches and electric lamps have been a thing for over 130 years, so the word electric was dropped. Also omnibuses are buses. Electric trams are trams. Trams used to use horses. Though I read some rich people in the USA are replacing front door electric lights with gaslights.

[JSWolf]

When I was growing up, my parents had a brass torch in the entry hallway. It did not use any batteries. My mom put an owl candle in it I made and painted in school.

I do now have a large handheld flashlight that is USB rechargeable. Other then being nice and bright, the good thing is that it has a % display so I can see how much battery is left. I got tired of having a flashlight just die without any warning.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Quoth

All my torches use batteries, and one is rechargeable, and my fire uses wood.

Electric torches and electric lamps have been a thing for over 130 years, so the word electric was dropped. Also omnibuses are buses. Electric trams are trams. Trams used to use horses. Though I read some rich people in the USA are replacing front door electric lights with gaslights.

I was thinking of my Fire tablet.

[Quoth]

They were called flashlights in 1890s (esp NY police) when they used carbon filaments and the zinc cells had no depolarising agent. They would come on bright and then quickly dim. After a minute or two off the cell would recover. Hence nicknamed flashlights. They have not been actually flashlights for maybe 120 years. It was I believe a nickname in NY, that didn't catch on in UK or rest of Europe.

Though A, B, C, D. F & G cells along with AA were designated in about 1947, the AA size was used in WWI (1914 the world, 1917 USA) as the cell in the torch for troops in the trenches. It was about the size of a fountain pen, hence penlight.
Later there were smaller cells than AA, such as Lady/N (very old), AAA and AAAA.
The A and G are gone. The F is sometimes inside the UK 996 6V pack. The B are still in the rare European 4.5V flat batteries (two in a radio), that was the 1289 rear cycle lamp in the UK.

Flashlight is thus an obsolete USA nickname for the electric torch.

[DNSB]

Ahhh... Thread drift...

Perhaps we could try to stay vaguely within view of the topic?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Quoth

They were called flashlights in 1890s (esp NY police) when they used carbon filaments and the zinc cells had no depolarising agent. They would come on bright and then quickly dim. After a minute or two off the cell would recover. Hence nicknamed flashlights. They have not been actually flashlights for maybe 120 years. It was I believe a nickname in NY, that didn't catch on in UK or rest of Europe.

Though A, B, C, D. F & G cells along with AA were designated in about 1947, the AA size was used in WWI (1914 the world, 1917 USA) as the cell in the torch for troops in the trenches. It was about the size of a fountain pen, hence penlight.
Later there were smaller cells than AA, such as Lady/N (very old), AAA and AAAA.
The A and G are gone. The F is sometimes inside the UK 996 6V pack. The B are still in the rare European 4.5V flat batteries (two in a radio), that was the 1289 rear cycle lamp in the UK.

Flashlight is thus an obsolete USA nickname for the electric torch.

Flashlight is the correct term. Torch is the thing with the flame that's not battery powered.

It's a flashlight even though the UK decided to use a different term.

https://uk.stkrconcepts.com/blogs/ne...7-caf3cf3024c5

[DNSB]

When I look at books by UK/European authors, torch seemed to the word of choice back into the 1910's.

Your opinion that this is incorrect is not the be all and end all. You might want to look for information on a British inventor David Misell who filed a patent in 1899 and German inventor Paul Schmidt who filed a patent in 1906 though there is some dispute over whom first created the flashlight vs. who first patented it.

As even the article you linked comments:

You may be wondering what the difference is between a torch and a flashlight. Other countries may be known for using torch instead of flashlight, but can these terms be interchanged? Is there a difference between them? These terms can be used interchangeably as they are just different terms for the same objects.

The problem with this post as with many of your posts is that you seem to conflate your opinions with facts.

And I must admit to getting a good laugh out of your posts whinging that the Dealing with Kindle ebooks in calibre thread must be moved to the Kindle forum since it has nothing to do with calibre and then you continue to hijack this thread to whinge about UK vs US usage.