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Old 09-03-2024, 02:04 AM   #1
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Standalone or bulk "Restructure to Sigl Norm"?

I have a bunch of epubs from all over the place that I want to standardize. Is Sigil's "restructure" script able to be run by itself? I assume it's in the Github, but I dunno where. Alternatively, suggesting another way to restructure many books would be appreciated. Thanks.
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The restructure code is not a "script". It's not something that could be simply copied out of Sigil's codebase and used elsewhere. It's C++ code that's intertwined with the rest of Sigil's C++ code.

Sigil's simply not geared toward the editing of bulk epubs. Calibre should be able to do this sort of thing.
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Old 09-03-2024, 06:49 PM   #3
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Dang. Guess I'll see if Calibre can do it, though I don't like how there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off its renaming of CSS classes.
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Dang. Guess I'll see if Calibre can do it, though I don't like how there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off its renaming of CSS classes.
I'm pretty sure you can restructure using calibre without actually converting (which would trigger all kinds of other changes). But it's been a while since I've used Calibre. I think it (the restructure feature) was a part of Calibre's editor.
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Dang. Guess I'll see if Calibre can do it, though I don't like how there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off its renaming of CSS classes.
In Calibre's directory there is a program "ebook-convert.exe" that you can use on a command line.

It converts between formats, but doing epub to epub cleans up a lot of things, and doesn't rename classes, though it may create some new ones (e.g. if there are spans with styling).

Just do: "ebook-convert oldbook.epub newbook.epub" and see how it goes.
See https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/gen...k-convert.html for options, though default makes it manageable and I continue in Sigil.
Note that it may resize and compress images if they're "large", you can just reimport the originals or try using the option " --output-profile tablet" which will (usually) make it leave images as-is.
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But I don't think calibre will restructure an epub using an epub to epub conversion. The OP is talking about homogenizing the physical archive structure (everything in OEBPS, Text, CSS, Images, Fonts, Misc folders) of a lot of epubs. I could be wrong, but I don't think a simple conversion will do that.
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I'm pretty sure you can restructure using calibre without actually converting (which would trigger all kinds of other changes). But it's been a while since I've used Calibre. I think it (the restructure feature) was a part of Calibre's editor.


The calibre ebook-editor has an Arrange into folders in its Tools menu, but I don't think it's available from the command line.

It might be possible to use the Action Chain and Editor Chain plugins to restructure multiple books in a calibre library.

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Thanks for the replies, I'll see if Calibre can manage it somehow. The reason I'm trying to homogenize the epubs is so I can mass-replace the CSS file inside with my own. Calibre sort of has that option when converting, but it renames the classes and throws out everything that isn't used, which I'm trying to avoid. So I'll try ebook-convert.exe. The Arrange into Folders option from the editor seems to be exactly what I'm looking for, can't believe it's not a command line feature!

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Thanks for the replies, I'll see if Calibre can manage it somehow. The reason I'm trying to homogenize the epubs is so I can mass-replace the CSS file inside with my own. Calibre sort of has that option when converting, but it renames the classes and throws out everything that isn't used, which I'm trying to avoid. So I'll try ebook-convert.exe. The Arrange into Folders option from the editor seems to be exactly what I'm looking for, can't believe it's not a command line feature!
MASS REPLACE Does not compute.

eg. class="calibre23" is not a standard across books.
in 1 book it may be used for Headings. Another for Spans. Another for Blockquotes.

The ONLY case you can count on is a Bare Tag (P, Div, H3, ...) (or when the selector is now NOT defined)

I keep (CSS) Clippings of MY STANDARDS. I use those to fix whatever selector Goto Link or style (On the context menu) jumps to. Even then, you will need REGEX foo, to trace out the dogs breath some books have (like a individual stylesheet per chapter file ).
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Well, yeah, that's why I don't want Calibre classes, as I mentioned. :P
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Well, yeah, that's why I don't want Calibre classes, as I mentioned. :P
Then don't use Calibre to convert.
The classes are assigned as needed... TOP to Bottom (of the book)
Do I have a class with the needed attributes?
Yes: use that here.
No: assign a new (next #) one.
Next block
Repeat until end
Nothing else will change that.
That is not what standard structure does. What it does is put the pieces into folders by usage TYPE.
CSS into Styles
images (of any ext) into Images
Text into Text

(there are others, less common)
And there are certain one that MUST be in the top layer.

If you want your books to look the same, Just delete the Styles folder (not really recommended and there is NO recovery).
That simply allows your devices block level defaults to prevail. There are no defaults for SPANS, so if italics were done that way... they will just be normal

FWIW I touchup every book to my standards (basic font size and margins). For a cleanly done book, I spend 30-60 seconds (I have saved clips. I just use the GoTo Link. to jump to the stylesheet, where I replace-insert the relevant bit of code).
I use the same steps for the messy code (I move inline style= code to the CSS) Some take a few mor minutes, a real hodgepodge can take an hour.
There is NO MAGIC SOLUTION.
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Additionally calibre only messes with class names on CONVERSIONS. Other operations such as the editor and its various functions don't mess with class names

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To anyone wondering, the Calibre plugins Action Chains and Editor Chains do exactly what I was wanting to do. Thanks all for the help.
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To anyone wondering, the Calibre plugins Action Chains and Editor Chains do exactly what I was wanting to do. Thanks all for the help.
I figured there was a way to pull it off. Glad you got it working.
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