Footer or Header?

shore_pk · 04-22-2021, 01:12 PM

Is there a way to add a footer or header in Sigil?

For example I would like a certain link to show up at the bottom (or top) of each page in the book without having to manually add it to every page.

Banjo · 04-22-2021, 01:35 PM

I have a book with a link back to the TOC at the bottom of every chapter.

I put the link into a template file called template.xhtml, then I start each chapter using the template file instead of creating a new file using Sigil. All of my boilerplate, for example the inclusion of my CSS, is already added into the template.xhtml file before I begin. I add the template.xhtml file to the book then rename it to the name of the chapter. Then, I put the chapter contents into the file.

JSWolf · 04-22-2021, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shore_pk

Is there a way to add a footer or header in Sigil?

For example I would like a certain link to show up at the bottom (or top) of each page in the book without having to manually add it to every page.

You cannot have headers/footers in an ePub.

KevinH · 04-22-2021, 01:48 PM

You can have headers and footers at a document/file level in html5 but it is not easy to get running page headers and footers since page size is variable and unknown. In epub3 you can simulate it using an aside tag, some css such as "display: oeb-page-header" and/or javascript to open a pop-up window. I am sure there are other ways to simulate it as well.

But only the reading device know its page size and only it can allocate space in its window layout for each page of text for something like a running header or footer. It is typically not part of the epub itself, but of the device. Same with pop-up footnotes.

DiapDealer · 04-22-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

You cannot have headers/footers in an ePub.

Not helpful, and not entirely true. Stop it.

Tex2002ans · 04-22-2021, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shore_pk

Is there a way to add a footer or header in Sigil?

Again: What are you trying to accomplish here? What is the goal?

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Originally Posted by shore_pk

For example I would like a certain link to show up at the bottom (or top) of each page in the book without having to manually add it to every page.

To do...?

If it helps, explain it in physical book form:

Are you trying to recreate headers (chapter title) + footers (page numbers)? And swapping between them on left/right pages?

Or something like that?

Because that kind of information is generated and displayed automatically by the device/reader.

Remember: Ebooks =/= Print books, and there are some things you just don't transfer over. Headers/Footers being one!

Side Note: And do you have a physical device to test your ebooks on?

A Kobo, a Nook, a Kindle, etc.

I think some of these questions would be squelched once you mess around with an ebook for a few minutes on an actual device or reader.

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Originally Posted by KevinH

In epub3 you can simulate it using an aside tag, some css such as "display: oeb-page-header" and/or javascript to open a pop-up window.

Is there any device that even follows that? Yes, I know it's buried somewhere in the EPUB specs... but reality...

Notjohn · 04-23-2021, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Not helpful, and not entirely true. Stop it.

True enough for most purposes, and therefore helpful, I should think.

DiapDealer · 04-23-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Notjohn

True enough for most purposes, and therefore helpful, I should think.

No. Not helpful. Neither is this.

"Helpful" is attempting to find out what the OP is trying to do and suggesting alternatives or workarounds as others have done.

"Helpful" is acknowledging that while what they want to accomplish might be technically possible, it's not encouraged, nor will it likely be supported by a lot of hardware/software out there--like others have done.

"Unhelpful" is seeking to end all discussion/participation by issuing terse "can't" or "don't" replies that impart no knowledge.

The latter is what Jon tends to do around here that I'm not going to tolerate.

If you have no constructive advice to help the OP accomplish, or alter their goals please consider not replying at all.

JSWolf · 04-23-2021, 09:48 AM

One suggestion is to put the links on the first page of every chapter.

DiapDealer · 04-23-2021, 10:09 AM

I've left the helpful portions of your most recent posts intact, Jon. The rest has been (and will continue to be) deleted. Please take the hint.

shore_pk · 04-23-2021, 11:43 AM

I wanted the same link at the bottom of each page but I've decided against this at this point. Thank you I've learned a lot from your responses!

04-22-2021, 01:12 PM	#1
shore_pk Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: none	Footer or Header? Is there a way to add a footer or header in Sigil? For example I would like a certain link to show up at the bottom (or top) of each page in the book without having to manually add it to every page.

04-23-2021, 09:48 AM	#9
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 76,326 Karma: 136006010 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	One suggestion is to put the links on the first page of every chapter. Last edited by DiapDealer; 04-23-2021 at 10:07 AM.

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04-22-2021, 01:35 PM	#2
Banjo Zealot Posts: 120 Karma: 5276 Join Date: Feb 2013 Device: Asus Zen Pad	I have a book with a link back to the TOC at the bottom of every chapter. I put the link into a template file called template.xhtml, then I start each chapter using the template file instead of creating a new file using Sigil. All of my boilerplate, for example the inclusion of my CSS, is already added into the template.xhtml file before I begin. I add the template.xhtml file to the book then rename it to the name of the chapter. Then, I put the chapter contents into the file.

04-22-2021, 01:48 PM	#4
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,156 Karma: 5450818 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	You can have headers and footers at a document/file level in html5 but it is not easy to get running page headers and footers since page size is variable and unknown. In epub3 you can simulate it using an aside tag, some css such as "display: oeb-page-header" and/or javascript to open a pop-up window. I am sure there are other ways to simulate it as well. But only the reading device know its page size and only it can allocate space in its window layout for each page of text for something like a running header or footer. It is typically not part of the epub itself, but of the device. Same with pop-up footnotes.

04-23-2021, 10:09 AM	#10
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,038 Karma: 199464182 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I've left the helpful portions of your most recent posts intact, Jon. The rest has been (and will continue to be) deleted. Please take the hint.

04-23-2021, 11:43 AM	#11
shore_pk Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: none	I wanted the same link at the bottom of each page but I've decided against this at this point. Thank you I've learned a lot from your responses!

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