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Old 06-30-2008, 10:50 AM   #1
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In Copyright? - Copyright Renewal Database launched

A few days ago, Google engineer Jarkko Hietaniemi released the XML file of all copyright renewal notices for books published in the United States between 1923 and 1963. The file is free and in the public domain, so I went ahead and imported it into a database-driven Web application, allowing you to do quick full-text searches through the records.

You can access it here: http://www.incopyright.org/

I should note that there is another similar online database by Stanford University; however, according to the Google Book Search blog, the Google-based database contains "the best and most comprehensive set of renewal records available today".

Feedback always recommended.

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Old 06-30-2008, 11:04 AM   #2
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Sweet. Does the renew date mean that it was renewed that date, or the date it should have been renewed?
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It's the date when it was renewed. All records contain works whose copyright has been renewed.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:40 PM   #4
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I wonder how complete it is. I was looking at Eric Frank Russell, and I noticed that a number of shorter works were missing, even making allowance for several short story collections that were renewed. Not included, or public domain? Just curious....
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Ralph, how did you search for him? Did you look at the search tips?

I would search for +eric +russell

The database uses the records fetched from the U.S. Copyright Office and Project Gutenberg. Do you have the name of a short story collection?
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I did "Eric Frank Russell" and +eric +russell with same result for the author. The short story collection is Deep Space. I just pulled it off the shelf - it contains 9 short stories. Other probable collections are - Startling Stories, Early Bird, This One's On Me, The Cosmic Relic, and The Rabble Rousers.
I'll go wiki EFR and check them out (I don't have them in paper).
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Most interesting. Sinister Barrier, his first and one of his most famous novels, is not on the list either by author or by title.
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Most interesting. Sinister Barrier, his first and one of his most famous novels, is not on the list either by author or by title.
Yeps. Also not in the Stanford U database.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:06 PM   #9
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This still strikes me as strange as P.G. hasn't done any of his works. Maybe they know something we don't know. I'd better give Greg Weeks an e-mail...
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:28 PM   #10
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I wonder how complete it is. I was looking at Eric Frank Russell, and I noticed that a number of shorter works were missing, even making allowance for several short story collections that were renewed. Not included, or public domain? Just curious....
You might query NESFA Press about Russell. They've been returning a fair bit of Russell to print. I have a story collection called _Major Ingredients_ and a novel collection called _Entities_ here. They could likely give you more information about the copyright status.

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In the US there is no current requirement to register a copyright. Was it before 63 that it was required?

In other words, if it's not on this list, does that mean it's not under copyright protection?

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That's a complicated question, Bob. Here goes:

If published:

after 1976, the work does not have to be registered or renewed;

after 1964, the work had to be registered but did not have to be renewed;

before 1964 the work had to be both registered and renewed (in the 28th year).
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Actually, I believe it was 1976 when the US joined the Berne Convention. There was a big noise made about Lord of the Rings being pirated by ---- company due to the lack of a US copyright filing. (Name deliberately left off.)
There was a number of (Very rare!) mimeograph books issued in the US by British authors to enforce their copyrights....
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Actually, I believe it was 1976 when the US joined the Berne Convention. There was a big noise made about Lord of the Rings being pirated by ---- company due to the lack of a US copyright filing. (Name deliberately left off.)
There was a number of (Very rare!) mimeograph books issued in the US by British authors to enforce their copyrights....
Yes, but in the year (1964+28) the US passed another law backdating the 1976 law to 1964.
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Yes, but in the year (1964+28) the US passed another law backdating the 1976 law to 1964.
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