kindle app? is it possible to design a app to full support PDF?

lili1989 · 02-05-2010, 07:02 AM

dose anyone know that ? i am waitting for that kind of app .

PDF is really important, and conversion of pdf is not a good idea

lili1989 · 02-05-2010, 07:02 AM

Device is kindle dx

mowbray · 02-05-2010, 08:16 AM

I thought Kindle DX did support PDF fully? I dont have one so havent tested it.

Interested to know what aspects aren't 'fully' supported in case I ever decide to upgrade my '2'

wallcraft · 02-05-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mowbray

Interested to know what aspects aren't 'fully' supported in case I ever decide to upgrade my '2'

The Kindle 2 now has the same native PDF support as the KDX, although it is less usable on the smaller screen.

Amazon licenced Adobe Digital Editions for the Kindle, but it did not implement most of the features of ADE and several open source PDF viewers are more capable than the Kindle's PDF viewer. The missing features are just about everything. No table of contents, no bookmarks, no annotations, no global indexing (for search). It is also missing page reflow. Like ADE, it does not support passworded PDFs.

To answer the original question, yes it is possible to port a full featured open source PDF viewer to an EInk device like the Kindle 2. The Hanlin's (for example) used XPDF before they switched to Adobe Digital Editions. The iLiad had very good PDF support because its open source PDF Reader was extensively hacked by its user community. There is now a version for the iLiad that does reflow (pPDF).

Sischa · 02-05-2010, 11:02 AM

Hmm bookmars are supported, aren't they?

And i am pretty sure i can search my PDF's looking up a special word for example, or what do you mean by "global indexing"?

mowbray · 02-05-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

no global indexing (for search).

OK. Do I now have the answer as to why I can search within a PDF for a word, but if I do a search from the home screen for the same word that it doesnt bring up the PDF document containing it?

wallcraft · 02-05-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mowbray

Do I now have the answer as to why I can search within a PDF for a word, but if I do a search from the home screen for the same word that it doesnt bring up the PDF document containing it?

Yes. The global indexing only includes the metadata of PDFs, so you can probably find the author and title but not the contents.

Search within the open PDF is supported, and adding a 3rd party PDF reader won't help with the missing global indexing/search.

daffy4u · 02-05-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

No table of contents, no bookmarks, no annotations, no global indexing (for search).

There is global searching of PDFs. I pointed this out when the 2.3 update first arrived.

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Actually I just tried a search of the word "battery" in the PDF of my Asus manual and it is searching though and highlighting the word as it find it, so searching does work.

wallcraft · 02-05-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

There is global searching of PDFs.

Have you tried searching for "battery" across all the documents on your Kindle? If so, does it find the references in the Asus manual?

daffy4u · 02-05-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

Have you tried searching for "battery" across all the documents on your Kindle? If so, does it find the references in the Asus manual?

I just did another test for someone on a another thread. I looked for the word "Hoodman" which I knew only existed in a PDF I had created. I the started search from the home page and it found the word.

Edit: I'm attaching a screen grab of the search results and the highlighted passage the search found.

Edit 2: Per your request, I did a global search for the word "battery" from the home page. It DID NOT find the word in the Asus PDF manual but it DID find 4 instances of the word in the PDF I created myself.

Edit 3: I owe Wallcraft an apology. I forgot I had a PDF version and a Mobi version (on the last page) of the same document. My search results were from the Mobi document NOT the PDF. Searching from within the PDF DOES still work.

S.Canton · 02-05-2010, 01:55 PM

Let me preface this by saying I haven't actually used PDF's on my K2, but I've heard that the support is actually fairly decent these days, and the DX support should definitely be up to snuff.

susan_cassidy · 02-05-2010, 03:06 PM

When they announced Apps, they said no generic reader apps would be allowed.

fugazied · 02-05-2010, 06:29 PM

Just in case you want to see how well technical pdfs render on the DX, some screen shots here: http://www.matthewdavidwilliams.com/...the-kindle-dx/

No annotations is the major limitation with technical documents, sometimes it's handy to jot something on a page. But the vast majority of PDF tools are supported now.

02-05-2010, 07:02 AM	#1
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02-05-2010, 08:16 AM	#3
mowbray Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Kindle 2	I thought Kindle DX did support PDF fully? I dont have one so havent tested it. Interested to know what aspects aren't 'fully' supported in case I ever decide to upgrade my '2'

02-05-2010, 11:02 AM	#5
Sischa Evangelist Posts: 428 Karma: 2370 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Device: Nokia 770, Ilead, Cybook G3, Kindle DX, Kindle 2, iPad, Kindle 3, PW	Hmm bookmars are supported, aren't they? And i am pretty sure i can search my PDF's looking up a special word for example, or what do you mean by "global indexing"?

02-05-2010, 01:55 PM	#11
S.Canton Groupie Posts: 174 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle 2	Let me preface this by saying I haven't actually used PDF's on my K2, but I've heard that the support is actually fairly decent these days, and the DX support should definitely be up to snuff.

02-05-2010, 03:06 PM	#12
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	When they announced Apps, they said no generic reader apps would be allowed.

02-05-2010, 06:29 PM	#13
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	Just in case you want to see how well technical pdfs render on the DX, some screen shots here: http://www.matthewdavidwilliams.com/...the-kindle-dx/ No annotations is the major limitation with technical documents, sometimes it's handy to jot something on a page. But the vast majority of PDF tools are supported now.

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