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Old 05-11-2023, 12:46 AM   #1
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Non-standard metadata tags in OPF file are deleted when saving.

Hi community,

I'm currently woking in Sigil on a bilingual dictionary for Kindle. To define the Input and Output language I have to include a specialized <x-metadata> tag within the <metadata> tag in the content.opf file:

Code:
  <metadata xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:opf="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf">
	...
	<x-metadata>
		<DictionaryInLanguage>pi</DictionaryInLanguage>
		<DictionaryOutLanguage>en</DictionaryOutLanguage>
		<DefaultLookupIndex>Pali</DefaultLookupIndex>
	</x-metadata>
	...
  </metadata>
When I save the file after including the <x-metadata> information in the *.opf file, Sigil removes it automatically.

Is there a way to keep non-standard metadata tags in the *.opf file?

Thanks in advance for your help 🙏
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Old 05-11-2023, 01:44 AM   #2
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Is there a way to keep non-standard metadata tags in the *.opf file?XVR
This is a known Sigil issue.

@KevinH if you're looking for a test case, here's a minimal Kindle epub dictionary.
When opened with Sigil, the following metadata section is silently stripped:

Code:
    <x-metadata>
        <output encoding="utf-8"/>
        <DefaultLookupIndex>russian</DefaultLookupIndex>
        <DictionaryInLanguage>ru</DictionaryInLanguage>
        <DictionaryOutLanguage>en</DictionaryOutLanguage>
    </x-metadata>
Here are the relevant Amazon KDP recommendations for creating dictionaries.
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Old 05-11-2023, 09:16 AM   #3
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This is a known Sigil issue.

@KevinH if you're looking for a test case, here's a minimal Kindle epub dictionary.
When opened with Sigil, the following metadata section is silently stripped:
Good to know. Thank you for your feedback @Doitsu.

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Old 05-11-2023, 09:56 AM   #4
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I'll look into it. Kindle should have just namespaced their tags and not tried to create their own base level tag that is not part of the opf spec.
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Old 05-11-2023, 03:31 PM   #5
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One question: must this x-metadata tag be a child of the metadata tag? The docs show it as a standalone section after the metadata tag closes but those kindle docs are not very clear on that.

Having an x-metadata tag be its own section immediately after the closing metadata tag makes the most sense and would be the easiest way to handle this since it is not valid metadata.

Will you please verify that kindle will properly process a standalone x-metadata section that is not a child of the metadata tag but comes immediately after?
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Old 05-11-2023, 03:52 PM   #6
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Here sample:
Code:
<package unique-identifier="uid" xmlns:dc="Dublin Core">

<metadata>
	<dc-metadata>
		<dc:Identifier id="uid">Special PL-RU</dc:Identifier>
		<dc:Title><h2>Special PL-RU</h2></dc:Title>
		<dc:Language>PL</dc:Language>
	</dc-metadata>
	<x-metadata>
		<DictionaryInLanguage>pl</DictionaryInLanguage>
		<DictionaryOutLanguage>ru</DictionaryOutLanguage>
	</x-metadata>
</metadata>
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Old 05-11-2023, 04:15 PM   #7
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That shows a non-existent dc-metadata tag and the x-metadata tag as a child of the metadata tag.

Where on earth is the dc-metadata needed? Certainly not in opf for epub2 or epub3. It is handled by namespaces.

Edit: I just checked and dc-metadata and x-metadata were both deprecated even BEFORE The epub 2.0 spec.

Quote:
From the epub 2.0 spec ...

The required metadata element is used to provide information about the publication as a whole. It may contain Dublin Core metadata elements directly or within a (now deprecated) dc-metadata sub-element. Supplemental metadata can also be specified directly or within a (now deprecated) x-metadata sub-element.

Reading Systems must allow the specification of the deprecated dc-metadata and x-metadata elements.

Newly created OPS 2.0 packages should not create dc-metadata or x-metadata elements.

If the dc-metadata element is used, all dc elements must go in dc-metadata and all other metadata elements, if any, must go into x-metadata. If the dc-metadata element is not used, all metadata elements must go directly in the metadata element.

My question is the docs show x-metadata tags after the metadata tag closes, not a child. Where exactly does the kindle software look for it. Can it not be nested?

Where is the package version attribute?

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Old 05-11-2023, 04:28 PM   #8
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Based on that alone, I do not think Sigil should be promoting or supporting the use of long long deprecated elements in the OPF just to support old kindle dictionaries.

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Old 05-11-2023, 04:31 PM   #9
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Perhaps file a bug report with kindle's dictionary software to not use long out of date opf constructs.
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