Bottom margin on first chapter page

[nuovodna]

Hi,
I'm trying to remove the bottom vertical margins of EPUBs to take up as much of the screen as possible.
The most useful setting seems to be "Reclaim bar height from bottom margin" but there remains too large bottom margin on the first pages of each chapter.
How can I solve it?

I'm on Clara BW.

Thanks in advance.

[mergen3107]

Did you try bottom menu - margins?

Also it might be the case or widows/orphans. Is there a single line on the next page?
There are style tweaks to address widows/orphans in top menu - second tab - style tweaks.

Also, play around with line spacing in bottom menu.

Also, some fonts have too tall character boxes, so try different fonts.

[nuovodna]

Originally Posted by mergen3107

Did you try bottom menu - margins?

Also it might be the case or widows/orphans. Is there a single line on the next page?
There are style tweaks to address widows/orphans in top menu - second tab - style tweaks.

Also, play around with line spacing in bottom menu.

Also, some fonts have too tall character boxes, so try different fonts.

Widows/orphans unsetted (if i activate avoid widows/orphans i have too many bottom space on all pages)
Margins from bottom menu: if i set a value under "10" the text is too close to bottom bar and text appears cutted (only on first chapter page, the next pages are good)
Changing line spacing has effect if setted under 75% but the effects to the rest of text is not good for my eyes.

I'm using Bodoni Moda font but other fonts look the same: i always have extra bottom space only first chapter pages.

Thanks

[mergen3107]

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Margins from bottom menu: if i set a value under "10" the text is too close to bottom bar and text appears cutted (only on first chapter page, the next pages are good)


That’s interesting!
Please enable verbose logs and try setting all these margins again.
This seems like a bug.

A photo might be helpful too.

(This is assuming you are on the latest nightly)

[nuovodna]

1st page of a chapter with my default settings: Reader_2024-06-05_212542.png

1st page of a chapter with minimum line spacing:Reader_2024-06-05_212613.png

1st page of chapter with minimum vertical margin: Reader_2024-06-05_212653.png

2nd page of a chapter with my default settings: Reader_2024-06-05_212716.png

I'm on a nightly from may (i didn't remember what specific version)

EDIT: updated to latest nightly, now the 1st chapter page is more next to the bottom bar than the other pages

[mergen3107]

So where is this “cut off text” issue?

Also, play around with status bar settings. Height and margin, in tip menu

[nuovodna]

Originally Posted by mergen3107

So where is this “cut off text” issue?

Also, play around with status bar settings. Height and margin, in tip menu

on third image "1st page of chapter with minimum vertical margin" some letters like "p" appear to be cutted

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by nuovodna

on third image "1st page of chapter with minimum vertical margin" some letters like "p" appear to be cutted

That's because the last line ends too close to the reading progress bar. You need to up the space between the last line and the progress bar or just leave it and put up with it. The reason it happens on the first page of the chapter is because the space and the larger lines makes the text end lower on the page. The next page does not have this so ends in a different place. So if you do up the space at the bottom of the page, you could have more space on the next page or lose a line.

[mergen3107]

It looks like you have “reclaim space” option turned off for status bar, that’s why it overlaps the text.

[nuovodna]

solved with tweak “Ignore publisher font sizes”

now the 1st chapter page and the next ones have the same bottom margin

Thanks a lot!

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by nuovodna

solved with tweak “Ignore publisher font sizes”

now the 1st chapter page and the next ones have the same bottom margin

Thanks a lot!

That (IMHO) is a bad idea. You do want the correct font sizes.

[Ebookus]

This is a silly never ending battle that you are never going to win. Just accept that sometimes the text will fit in nicely and some other won’t.

[mergen3107]

Ah yes,
I set “ignore publisher font sizes” and “ignore publisher line heights” and “enforce steady line heights”, because I was going crazy about inconsistency between books on the same font.

All these sizes (main text p, titles, subtitles, cites, etc) I set up myself in styletweaks

[mergen3107]

These settings I set by default for new books as well (long press on settings)

[nuovodna]

I found a more efficient solution: change the render to “book” (I had “web”)