05-08-2015, 11:10 AM | #1 |
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Greetings and a few queries
I am preparing a book for kindle publication for the first time. Pleased to have found this forum. I looked at the html that was generated exporting the author's work from .doc and realised immediately that I had to start from scratch. For the moment I am just going through the text writing minimal and valid html and a small css file. I will soon be on to the unfamiliar kindle specific stuff, so I will have many questions.
I would like to have some up to date sample files to help me learn about the other required files and what they do. Does that exist? I am also looking for the approved html for numbered footnote links. My footnotes will just be at the end of each chapter. I believe they need to link both ways? Glad to be here. Tim W |
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I don't believe there is any sort of "approved html". But some people may be able to give you tips on what worked for them.
Yes, footnotes should link both ways. They don't have to, but it would be nice. Suggestion -- don't use superscripted numbers, use "[1]" etc. instead. It is easier for us to click. If you can get ahold of an original DOCX (not old DOC) then Toxaris' Word Addin can do a much better job of exporting an actual base EPUB than Word itslef will do with filtered HTML. Alternatively, the calibre E-Book Editor can directly import DOCX, again with much better results than exporting from Word. |
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05-08-2015, 03:25 PM | #3 |
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Thanks. Having written a bit of html for the web I couldn't bear to look at the mess made by Word. I guess it's unimportant if you only want your html to display correctly on one specific device but still, I am rewriting it in a text editor now.
I am getting the impression that amazon's declarations of 'requirements' are not taken too seriously. Is that so? They say that superscript and the link back are both 'required' for footnotes. That's why I was fretting about getting approved code. maybe I should just worry less and get on with the job. |
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I think the linkback may be required for the latest devices to make the footnotes appear in a popup. That would be a requirement.
Certainly my Kindle Touch supports plain old hyperlinked footnotes, though. But I appreciate it anyway when I can link back to the text. The back button is only partially helpful, e.g. I cannot look through the footnotes and go to the places they refer to. |
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We had a long discussion about a year ago discussing footnotes: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=241177 Quote:
If you do have the source DOCs, I would recommend taking a look at Toxaris's EPUB Tools: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=213372 It cleans and exports extremely clean HTML from any sort of DOC(X). It will save you a ton of hours instead of manual cleanup. Last edited by Tex2002ans; 05-08-2015 at 05:18 PM. |
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05-08-2015, 05:34 PM | #6 |
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Oh, so Toxaris' tools handle old DOC as well? I guess that makes sense if they run in Word after all...
As you can tell, I know a lot more about calibre than I do about Toxaris' tools. Or Word. |
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The basic Sigil for Kindle books workflow can be summed up as follows: 1. Create a basic ePub by adding HTML and CSS files to the book. (CSS files need to be linked to HTML files.) 2. Add a cover image file, right-click it and select Add Semantics > Cover Image. 3. Generate a regular TOC by pressing CTRL+T. 4. Generate an HTML TOC for backwards compatibility with older Kindles. (Tools > Table of Contents > Create HTML Table Of Contents) 5. Select the HTML page of the first chapter and mark it as Start Reading Location (Add Semantics > Text). 6. Press F8 end enter author and book title. 7. Verify the ePub with Sigil FlightCrew and epubcheck. 8. Test the book with Kindle Previewer and actual Kindles. |
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05-08-2015, 07:59 PM | #8 |
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I use Word 2000, so the Toxaris plug-in doesn't work for me. Rather, I paste the *.doc into Word2CleanHtml dot com online, open the html file in Sigil, make the book beautiful and functional, and upload it to the KDP for conversion. Works every time.
Any tool seems to work better than Word's export / save as html, though to be sure it seems to get better (cleaner) with every iteration. I'm told that Open Office exports / saves as html that is very good. |
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This is all really useful. Especially Doitsu's workflow. Have I got this right? :
I can upload html in a zip to amazon, but it is much preferred to prepare a complete tested and checked epub? Sigil/Calibre are preferred methods of creating epub? I imagined I would do it manually but I am hearing that it isn't necessary. In my html I can forget semantics and leaness. I just want simple functional markup for layout. |
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Hang on. Do I ned to write xhtml for an epub? kindle documents say they accept html5.
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You can use either program to create an ePub, however, I wouldn't recommend uploading a Calibre generated .mobi file to KDP, because they occasionally get rejected. Quote:
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BTW, if you decide to give Sigil a try make sure to select Edit > Preferences > Clean Source > Pretty Print Tidy. Otherwise Sigil might automatically create unwanted classes for inline styles. |
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I would urge you to settle on Sigil. It's meant for the one purpose -- building an epub -- and does it wonderfully well. And with respect to your third point, Sigil's additional tools can be very useful. I'm all for simplicity and letting the defaults rule, but neither would I rule out the semantics tool, nor the metadata tool, nor the TOC tools. |
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Have you tried to clean the doc in word? I too would recommend toxaris tools, but if you have an old word, you could do many things by hand. I assume the author used direct formating since otherwise the word output shouldn't be that messy.
If we are talking about a simple novel, you could just assign correct styles. Use words search and replace to mark headers and the few special cases then select all and give it the normal style. Now style the marked paragraphs. The word output should now be pretty good, remaining things are then easily corrected with sigil/calibre and search and replace. |
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05-21-2015, 07:50 AM | #15 |
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just have to make a backup like this now:
http://imgur.com/gallery/UL2NY |
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