08-10-2009, 11:40 AM | #1 |
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Cybook & Sony... Wait! Bizarre details included!
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Unfortunately since no ebook reader seems to be available for sale (physically) in the Emirates, I'm taking the opportunity of deciding what to buy here in Switzerland. The Iliad, Cybook Gen3 and Sony PRS-505. The Iliad is out of the question, despite the fact that it seems cheaper than it was 2 years back when I was last here. (I did not buy it at the time, way too expensive.) And it still is expensive today. The only stuff left is the Cybook Gen3 and the Sony PRS-505. The Sony is the cheapest, EPUB, PDF & TXT support (Vital for me, I read Arabic texts on PDF). Major downside though: the PRS-505 is only available in German, no English no French. (I should learn German if I begin to use this one.) Price is at 380 CHF, which is reasonable I suppose. The Cybook Gen3 is a 100 CHF more than the Sony. Has English and French support along with German. PDF & TXT, but no EPUB. (EPUB arriving on firmware in the near future?) But what does the near future mean? I'll probably have to install the firmware. (Sometimes horrifying to me.) I use Linux (Ubuntu, to be specific), so I understand that the Cybook Gen loads on Linux as a mass-storage device. Which is alright for me. Question: Does the Sony PRS-505 do the same? Good typography is holy: The Cybook Gen3 openly advertises that I can add fonts of my own, TTF, does that mean its easy to support non-PDF Japanese and Chinese texts on the Cybook? (Yes, I read half a ton of languages, just not German.. Yet.) What about the Sony, can I add fonts to the Sony, for Chinese or Japanese? What about this firmware issue with Cybook Gen? How would I be able to install it using Linux? Or should I beg a Windows-using friend to lend me the computer to upgrade the firmware? That would be awkward. Does the Sony have firmware issues too? Would I be able to solve them with Linux? I know that's a lot of questions... Any input is helpful and welcomed. I only have until the coming Friday to decide. Then I head back home to the Emirates. And I most certainly want to have an ebook reader when I head back. Any recommendations, notes, tips, comments? Anything would help. |
08-10-2009, 12:04 PM | #2 |
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Yes, you can read Chinese, etc, on the CyBook simply by copying the appropriate fonts.
Upgrading the Gen3's firmware simply involves copying a file to the SD card, then rebooting the Gen3 with that SD card in it. It's totally "o/s-neutral". |
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08-10-2009, 12:25 PM | #3 |
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If the Qur'an is among the Arabic texts you are going to read, I can recommend the Sony. I have some pdfs of several suwar and they look nice. The Sony 700 also reflows arabic pdfs well enough, at least it did so for an article from al-ahram. I do not know if the 505 shares this capacity.
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Ooh, another question, considering that a lot of Arabic PDF files are insanely huge: Would the Gen3 or PRS-505 survive displaying large PDF files? Large being between 10 and 50 MB. Some of the scans, especially the big book scans tend to be quite heavy in size. |
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File size isn't a problem. I regularly use an 80MB PDF on my Gen3 (a scanned Latin grammar book, in case you were wondering).
Be warned, though; PDFs which are scanned images (rather than text) will display very poorly on a 6" screen if the original page is significantly larger than that. The CyBook has a "pan and scan" mode which allow you to "zoom in" and "scroll around" the page. I'm not sure how the Sony handles it. |
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Also, regarding the PRS-505 being in German, you should have no problems reflashing it with PRSCustomizer into English or French. - Ahi |
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That's correct - no hyperlinks in PDFs. However, Mobi Creator generally does a good job of converting text PDFs to Mobi, and that does get you working hyperlinks. Image-scan PDFs generally don't have hyperlinks to begin with.
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I suppose the question is whether such things are done in scanned Arabic PDFs. - Ahi |
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If I can zoom in then I'm fine, I tend to have to zoom in even when reading them on the desktop, particularly if they are handwritten manuscripts. (The amount of different calligraphic styles in Arabic do make scanning in vital and important, at least for me.) Quote:
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So far the Gen3 is very encouraging. Just need to shell out the extra 100 CHF. (I wonder if there are any serious objections?) By the way, I've heard of an upcoming SONY Reader, which apparently targets the Kindle directly. (So perfectly glad the Kindle isn't available in the Emirates, last thing we need is serious DRM problems! Or monopolizers on ebooks, for that matter.) |
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Albeit, as Harry said, scanned PDFs are in a different category from text-based PDFs. Chances are your image-based PDFs will not be too snappy on page-turns. I highly recommend you consider putting your scanned books through manga2pdf so the images are quality-optimized for the Sony PRS-505 and your page load times are minimized. Keep the higher quality originals though... because you won't have a limited 3rd generation eBook reader forever. - Ahi |
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The best way to read larger stuff on the Sony Reader is to read it landscape, with half the page showing at any given time (top half or bottom half). Meaning you can view approximately 12 cm x 16 cm pages at 100% (depending on which half of the page is showing, the top or the bottom 0.5 or 1 cm of the page is shaded to show that it is an area of overlap that will show more clearly on the other half of the current page). Oh!!! One more thing. Cybook Gen3 has 4 gray levels, whereas the Sony Reader has 8. Might this leave you with contrast issues? Are the scanned PDFs 2 colour black-and-white PDFs, or are they colour or grayscale ones? If the latter, you might benefit from (or downright need) the additional gray level's ability to enhance sharpness/contrast (and reducing the need for dithering). - Ahi |
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Ahi, your signature. Clearly, its neither Korean or Japanese, since it's a transliteration of the Cyrillic (with a Maltese ћ?), or is it.. An artificial language? It's cool nonetheless, I read it in all three, couldn't "identify" the language. .... Are you into language making? I got into it for a while, but grew out when I got to uni, might restart. Great hobby. Back to the topic: Quote:
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He he. Yeah...
Not sure what it would be practical for, other than perhaps wikipedia excerptions... which was vaguely the original topic that lead me down the road of inquiry. As alluded in the post though, the complete Summa Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas is in fact just under 10,500 pages and actually works without any obvious handicap. (In all instances, the pages are 9cm x 12cm pages... not any sort of real world book or A4 size pages.) Quote:
And while the Korean and Japanese can legitimately be seen as the transliteration of the Cyrillic, it would be more correct to consider all three transliterations. (Albeit the Cyrillic is perfect, while the Japanese and Korean are merely approximating ones.) Without further ado: The text is Hungarian. "Atyáid emléke mindörökké éljen benned, s légy mécsese a jövendő nemzedékeknek." I am content to translate it to English as: "Let the memory of your forefathers in your heart forever stay, Because for the coming generations, you must light the way." It is my family motto. Way back when I too dabbled in conlanging, and also had to leave it behind. When my all too grown-up responsibilities nowadays permit me, I actually work on a massive alt-history/future-history world whose primary focus is only marginally languages, and primarily that of culture, sociology, politics, and theology. Quote:
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I'll let you know about the experiments I run on my Sony later tonight... probably will be tomorrow for you, unless you stay up till all sorts of crazed hours of the night/morning. - Ahi |
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To add a few facts:
1. Cybook supports various fonts in Mobi format, HTML format, and TXT format. It supports Unicode and probably Arabic texts in Mobi format, but I believe it won't support them in either HTML or PDF. At least, it doesn't support Polish letters in TXT or HTML, no matter if the font contains them, doesn't support UTF-8 or anything beyond plain ASCII in TXT, or in HTML. 2. Bookeen, makers of Cybook firmware, plan to release two versions of firmware. One will support ePub, and will either not support Mobi at all, or will support only non-DRMed Mobi. The other will have DRMed Mobi format, but not ePub. This is due to Amazon restrictions on letting device providers use Mobi format. So if you want to have ePub, you might not be able to have Mobi at the same time, and possibly might not be able to read Arabic texts. 3. Bookeen are *very* slow in realization of their promises. The version of firmware we're currently waiting for was to be released on New Year's Eye, then two weeks before the end of March they said it'll be ready for April, then sometime in May they said they'll release it "on Monday", then a month ago at a meeting in Paris they installed newest firmware, apparently fully working, on some people's Cybooks. Since then, silence. So don't rely on features-to-be. 4. Bookeen are also known to ignore support emails from many people - and other people have found them to be reacting quickly and replacing broken devices. I hope you'd belong to the latter group. |
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You can of course use Calibre. Works great on Ubuntu. By the way, aren't you going to wait a little bit for the new PRS-600? |
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