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10-04-2012, 11:19 AM | #1 | |
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Google Settle 7-Year Copyright Infringement Suit Over Google Library Project
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10-04-2012, 11:12 PM | #2 |
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7 years. That is a lot of billable hours.
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10-05-2012, 07:19 AM | #3 |
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10-05-2012, 10:13 AM | #4 |
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no author settlement yet
Note that they have not settled with the AUTHORS they illegally pirated. The biggest pirate on the planet sits there laughing, flanked by members of Congress...
I suspect one day they will send me my $5 in googlebuck advertising and some chewed bubble gum for blatantly pirating my books for years. (Note: I don't care about piracy, I just loathe hypocrisy). |
10-05-2012, 05:44 PM | #5 |
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Umm, I don't think that's fair. Google scans and makes the books searchable, but I assume it's not giving away whole books for free. Nor is it selling books and keeping money for itself.
True, doing it without permission is a stretch of fair use and I see it as legally and morally problematic, but it's not fair to call it piracy. Recall that the newspapers hated google news. But they are now coming around to the idea that google directs traffic to them and brings eyeballs and hence money. The situations are not perfectly analogous, but close. Last edited by Barty; 10-05-2012 at 05:49 PM. |
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For those that aren't sure what's going on, here's an explanatory paragraph from Tech Crunch: Quote:
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What gives Google the right to make that decision for authors? If they simply wanted to make a useful service, they would have made it opt-in rather than opt-out. |
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Unless I am missing something, Google Books is serving up quotations no longer than what you will find in reviews. A quote is not a work of art like a music track. If you are willing for a rave New York Times review to quote your book, you should also be willing for Google to offer quotes from it. Some authors/publishers seem to think Google is like someone who downloads a pirated book and never reads more than snippets from it. The difference, I believe, is that employees at Google do not commonly read the books in their databases, and are surely forbidden to do so. By contrast, the only rational reason someone would download to their home computer is that they are planning to actually read the full text, or at least some artistically whole portion, such as a short story in a book of copyrighted short stories. |
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And your example doesn't work. Google is providing a relatively small snippet of a text and providing links to where it can be purchased. The only downside for an author is allowing more people to find their work and pay for it. Ya, it's an opt-out system, but the default isn't "provide entire text" if someone doesn't opt-out, it's "provide snippet". There's would be nothing stopping you from scanning a book you own and putting up a snippet; that's covered by fair use in the U.S. The issue was, among other things, the size of the snippet Google was putting up. So it was never entirely clear in this case if what Google was doing was infringing or not; now it doesn't matter because the litigants have settled. This is just cataloging in the digital age, not some sinister plot. Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 10-07-2012 at 09:08 AM. |
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