which format will win?

renareto · 02-19-2010, 06:22 PM

Hi all,
I would have some opinion about the ebook format that would be the standard in next future.
I know it its a stupid question, but, i would buy an ereader, and i want to be sure it will support the 'standard' of ebook.

my idea is that this should be epub.
what do yo think about?

TIA

Renato

JSWolf · 02-19-2010, 06:23 PM

ePub is already the standard and there's nothing out there to even remotely replace it.

koland · 02-19-2010, 09:10 PM

Just beware of which DRM scheme you buy - Sony (so far) uses straight ADE, B&N uses the new ADE+CreditCard+Name and it looks like Apple won't use ADE at all, but their own unique DRM on top of epub (and since they are not licensing the adobe server, presumably won't read drm'd epubs from other sources, in addition to locking their content to their device).

Bremen Cole · 02-19-2010, 11:34 PM

_________________ePub_____________________

weedfreak · 02-20-2010, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koland

Just beware of which DRM scheme you buy - Sony (so far) uses straight ADE, B&N uses the new ADE+CreditCard+Name and it looks like Apple won't use ADE at all, but their own unique DRM on top of epub (and since they are not licensing the adobe server, presumably won't read drm'd epubs from other sources, in addition to locking their content to their device).

I will never buy any DRMed ebook, eventually there will only be DRM free ebooks.

K-Thom · 02-20-2010, 07:34 AM

There won't be "a" standard.

Several formats already co-existed for the last ten years, and this will continue. Honestly, I really don't care which format will become "the" standard, as long as it's possible to buy any eBook I'd like to read and convert it into my favorite format.

kennyc · 02-20-2010, 07:40 AM

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EPUB

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JSWolf · 02-20-2010, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedfreak

I will never buy any DRMed ebook, eventually there will only be DRM free ebooks.

Then you'll be missing out on a lot of eBooks as most do come with the added bonus of DRM.

JSWolf · 02-20-2010, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Thom

There won't be "a" standard.

Several formats already co-existed for the last ten years, and this will continue. Honestly, I really don't care which format will become "the" standard, as long as it's possible to buy any eBook I'd like to read and convert it into my favorite format.

ePub is already THE standard. Of course, Amazon has yet to realize this.

Zetmolm · 02-20-2010, 09:17 AM

Depends on which part of the world you're talking about.In Russia, fb2 is the de facto standard.

JSWolf · 02-20-2010, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetmolm

Depends on which part of the world you're talking about.In Russia, fb2 is the de facto standard.

Sorry Russia is not with it.

Zetmolm · 02-20-2010, 10:10 AM

Well, fb2 is a format that came out of the Russian readers community, and their efforts have led to a situation where the Russians are far ahead of us in making copyrighted contents available in a way that makes readers, authors, and publishers happy. There are several legal Russian sites where you can read any book you want (in Russian, of course) for free online, or download them for a price of often less than 1 dollar. And all the legal rights and fees arfe taken care of!

loveangel · 02-20-2010, 10:12 AM

EPUB!!

HarryT · 02-20-2010, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetmolm

Well, fb2 is a format that came out of the Russian readers community, and their efforts have led to a situation where the Russians are far ahead of us in making copyrighted contents available in a way that makes readers, authors, and publishers happy. There are several legal Russian sites where you can read any book you want (in Russian, of course) for free online, or download them for a price of often less than 1 dollar. And all the legal rights and fees arfe taken care of!

But that's just down to some strange "loophole" in Russian copyright law which says that this is "legal" if the site claims to be collecting payment on behalf of the copyright holder. The trouble is, there is no enforcement of the fact that they are actually paying it, and I very, very much doubt that they are, if the equivalent MP3 sites in Russia are anything to go by. I really wouldn't hold this up as a shining example of fairness if I were you.

Zetmolm · 02-20-2010, 11:02 AM

@Harry,
This is somewhat off topic, but still:
You refer to the 'allofmp3'-construction. Do you have proof that these sites use a similar loophole? They claim to have agreements with the publishers of the books they make available.
Also, on the site of ast.ru, for instance, which is one of the biggest publishers in Russia, you'll find links to some cheap web shops. They would not do that if they don't get any money from those shops, would they? And these shops also sell fb2, without DRM!

02-19-2010, 06:22 PM	#1
renareto Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	which format will win? Hi all, I would have some opinion about the ebook format that would be the standard in next future. I know it its a stupid question, but, i would buy an ereader, and i want to be sure it will support the 'standard' of ebook. my idea is that this should be epub. what do yo think about? TIA Renato

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K-Thom The one and only Posts: 3,302 Karma: 535819 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: yup!	There won't be "a" standard. Several formats already co-existed for the last ten years, and this will continue. Honestly, I really don't care which format will become "the" standard, as long as it's possible to buy any eBook I'd like to read and convert it into my favorite format.

02-20-2010, 07:40 AM	#7
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02-20-2010, 09:17 AM	#10
Zetmolm Guru Posts: 614 Karma: 2031728 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: PocketBook Touch (622), PocketBook Touch Lux 2, Pocketbook Touch HD 3	Depends on which part of the world you're talking about.In Russia, fb2 is the de facto standard.

02-20-2010, 10:10 AM	#12
Zetmolm Guru Posts: 614 Karma: 2031728 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: PocketBook Touch (622), PocketBook Touch Lux 2, Pocketbook Touch HD 3	Well, fb2 is a format that came out of the Russian readers community, and their efforts have led to a situation where the Russians are far ahead of us in making copyrighted contents available in a way that makes readers, authors, and publishers happy. There are several legal Russian sites where you can read any book you want (in Russian, of course) for free online, or download them for a price of often less than 1 dollar. And all the legal rights and fees arfe taken care of!

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loveangel Banned Posts: 137 Karma: 30 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: kindle	EPUB!!

02-20-2010, 11:02 AM	#15
Zetmolm Guru Posts: 614 Karma: 2031728 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: PocketBook Touch (622), PocketBook Touch Lux 2, Pocketbook Touch HD 3	@Harry, This is somewhat off topic, but still: You refer to the 'allofmp3'-construction. Do you have proof that these sites use a similar loophole? They claim to have agreements with the publishers of the books they make available. Also, on the site of ast.ru, for instance, which is one of the biggest publishers in Russia, you'll find links to some cheap web shops. They would not do that if they don't get any money from those shops, would they? And these shops also sell fb2, without DRM!

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