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Epub to Kindle and page numbers
I am deciding between a Nook and a Kindle. Basically I like the Kindle device better, but I like Nook's e-books better (displays page numbers and uses the epub).
So what I'd like to know is, if I get a Kindle and convert epubs to Kindle's format on Calibre, will the Kindle display the page numbers in the epub file, or will it convert to using those damned "positions"? |
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Both the page numbers and the Kindle positions are made up numbers based on counting bytes in a file. So, no they won't get preserved between ePub and Kindle.
In the case of ePub, it is possible to have the page numbers explicitly defined in the document. But this isn't common at present. |
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The only problem is when there are multiple versions of the book, there is no way of finding out which version the ebook is based on. But they seem to always correspond exactly to some physical copy of the book at least. So what do these numbers translate to when converting to Kindle? Something arbitrary? |
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They don't get translated at all. |
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No, in devices which use ADE to display ePub files (which includes the nook, Sony, etc), ADE page numbers are a count of 1024 characters in the compressed file. They certainly don't have any correspondence whatsoever with page numbers in any particular printed edition.
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I looked at the bestsellers they had downloaded already. Bush's Decision Points, that Patterson book. Then I looked at Infinite Jest (I thought it might be a weird book to read on an e-reader). All in all I looked at probably 5. The guy at the store said the page numbers always correspond. So on the Nook, you might be on "page 6" for a few 'screen pages' depending on how big the font size is. So the Kindle won't display anything relating to your progress through the book? |
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Damn, so maybe I just got lucky when I looked through them. I'll have to go back and look in more detail. Thanks. If this is right, it changes everything. |
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As Harry says, Adobe uses a complicated algorithm that is approximately 1024 characters in the compressed file. So the actual number of bytes in a "page" varies but it is often more than one screen full of text. Also, a new chapter always starts a new page.
On the Kindle a location unit is 128 bytes, so divide by 10 or 20 to get something like an Adobe page. |
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Thanks for the replies. This helps. I would have been really annoyed if I got the Nook and found out later the page numbers didnt correspond.
So if I get a Kindle, will there be a way to take DRMed Epub files downloaded from Google's new ebook store and get them on the Kindle? I imagine I'd have to strip the DRM. Is there a utility for that? |
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Apropos already said this but the point should be made again:
An epub can contain information that explicitly defines page numbers and overrides the default algorithm. Its purpose is exactly to allow the ebook version to match "pagination" with a particular print version. Some publishers may implement this. The format used on the Kindle does not have this capacity, so the page map in an epub will not be reflected in an azw or mobi file. |
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Just for anyone who might search for this later and won't know if the page numbers in the Nook correspond to the physical book:
They don't. I went back to B&N, and looked again. The numbers might correspond on some books at the very beginning, but as you go along, the differences, of course, get much greater. When I went the first time, I only did it very quickly because the rep there was seemingly very certain that they always correspond exactly. |
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