08-17-2011, 11:12 AM | #1 | |
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'Amazon couldn’t make a Kindle [in the U.S.] if it wanted to'
Interesting. And it looks like the exceptions are few and far between. Maybe paying slightly higher prices for the gear from companies that kept their expertise on US soil is good thing. Maybe not. >shrug<
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08-17-2011, 11:22 AM | #2 | |
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08-17-2011, 12:37 PM | #3 |
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I wonder why the author chose Amazon, instead of the US tech industry as a whole?
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08-17-2011, 01:10 PM | #4 |
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I would guess it was done based on some other news story about Amazon being an American company that is mainly not in the United States.
But that's a guess. And yes, it could be applied to many things in the US tech industry. |
08-17-2011, 01:20 PM | #5 |
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I wonder how much of that would also be true for most European counties (especially the more wealthy ones...)
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08-17-2011, 02:28 PM | #6 |
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The thing is that Americans want to be paid top-dollar for the work they do, but they don't want to pay a fair wage value for the things they purchase.
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08-17-2011, 05:00 PM | #9 |
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No, they want a fair wage so that they don't have to rely on food banks and homeless shelter kitchens to feed themselves or their kids. Not to mention enough to have and maintain a decent home of some sort instead of being stuck in crime-ridden slums or on the street.
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Although it's hard to argue, really, that workers in China are not being paid a "fair" wage when compared to other wages in their economy and how far their wages go. And if you go outside of China, manufacturing wages in other Asian countries - such as Taiwan - are basically the same as first world wages. |
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08-17-2011, 06:27 PM | #13 | |
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In the 1960's, wages were the big savings. Wages have not been the biggest savings since that time, and in each and every year that has passed since then the cost savings from being outside ever more obtrusive and costly regulations has grown. Plants are more ane more automated. Wages are a smaller and smaller part of the cost of a product. If a plant was entirely automated, and didn't have one single employee to pay wages to...it still would not be able to compete with a plant in South Korea or Taiwan. Unless there is no competition from abroad, or the process requires no hydraulics or forges. MEMC will be leving Texas in the next couple of years - mostly for Malaysia. Expect TI to follow. This is how California got to be in the position it is in - decades of driving its taxbase overseas or to other states. Eventually that reaches a breaking point. |
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08-17-2011, 10:59 PM | #14 |
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Oh, a protectionist article in the US media? It must be Wednesday.
I can't go too much into the objections without this turning into an economic and political rant. Suffice it to say that Amazon went from zero manufacturing to making a reasonably successful electronic device in the span of a few years -- faster and better than many companies with years of experience in the field *cough* Sony *cough* MOTOROLA *cough* I'd say his concerns that we are sabotaging our own ability to innovate because we're outsourcing manufacturing of certain electronics doesn't seem to be well-supported by the facts. |
08-18-2011, 05:49 AM | #15 |
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Well, now the US knows what it has to do and fix. Invent stuff, develop stuff, manufacture stuff. China is "producing" more engineers than anybody else. How many Americans become engineers and how many of them end up in financial markets?
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