![]() |
#1 |
Groupie
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 160
Karma: 6298862
Join Date: Oct 2012
Device: none
|
Pocketbook Viva - full of colors, full of superpowers!
Hey there,
A couple of days ago Pocketbook announced a new colour ebook-reader, the Pocketbook Viva. It will be the first colour e-reader to use E-Inks new Gallery 3 display technology and is set to launch sometime in the first quarter of 2023 for the price of €599. Otherwise the design (and specs) are similar to the Pocketbook Era, albeit with a slightly bigger 8" display. You can read the whole announcement here: -> https://pocketbook.ch/en-ch/news/poc...k-viva-news-ch
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Addict
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 368
Karma: 10703708
Join Date: Dec 2020
Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3
|
I hope they develop this technology further. At current I just cannot see the point of Gallery 3 on such a small device.
Colour e-ink makes sense for PDFs with graphics in colour or for comics, or magazines. And all of those would be best served by a 13" e-reader. Or at least 10". Add to that the slow refresh rate, which would make it painful to navigate a document (which one would have to do on such a small screen). So what is the use case for this device? The few non-fiction epubs that depend on colour to show nice graphs? Looking at family photos? The rare manga in colour? And the price... ouch! |
![]() |
![]() |
Advert | |
|
![]() |
#3 |
Wizard
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,884
Karma: 3933245
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Salzburg AT
Device: Bigme 3/3, Boox 4/14, Like-/Meebook 2/8, Tolino 1/10, Ki/Ko 0/8
|
The only advantage is that it looks nice in the sun - but it has many other disadvantages
You have to go into the shade with a tablet, but whether that's worth €600 is something everyone has to decide for themselves. I prefer my 10 inch €50 China tablet. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Grand Sorcerer
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 6,641
Karma: 26963509
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3
|
It needs to be about half that price, and even then...
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
eReader Wrangler
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 7,731
Karma: 50234151
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Boise, ID
Device: PB HD3, GL3, Tolino Vision 4, Voyage, Clara HD
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
Advert | |
|
![]() |
#6 |
temp. out of service
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,795
Karma: 24285242
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Duisburg (DE)
Device: PB 623
|
it's the new tech bonus.
what do you think I paid for my 1st monochrome reader (bebook mini) 200€ hey, at least tech development goes on and isn't stalling. Size will follow. if it's bad i cannot judge. im still using a pb lux |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Guru
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 737
Karma: 7025494
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Italy
Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Elipsa, Pocketbook Color PB633, Inkpad Color
|
"Only" € 599
![]() Well, I bought both color device of Pocketbook so far, and now I seldom use the 6" screen Pocketbook Color, its only advantage is that it is the lighter ereader I own but its screen is terrible. And the 7.8" screen of Inkpad Color is somewhat better but it is useful only for non fiction books with color images (diagram, sometime maps etc.). Not so bad also for color comics but it depends on the size of them, often its 7.8" screen it is not large enough. This color model seems better but, as far I can read, it is slow. Well I don't know if I will buy it, may be not. But when somebody will use it we will have some real news about it. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Gentleman and scholar
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 11,231
Karma: 110205705
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
The first Kindle was $399 in 2007 and sold out. The inflation calculator tells me that that would be $574.91 today.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
the rook, bossing Never.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 12,247
Karma: 89531599
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
|
What price was a Sony e-reader that year?
But would a 1953 USA Color TV vs same year mono or a 1969 UK Colour TV vs 1969 UK 625 Mono be better comparisons? Or 2003 Colour Nokia Communicator vs 2000 Mono Nokia Communicator (1st smart phone was 1998). It's also not at all the first colour ereader, (though earlier ones are real eink with a filter or even LCD). |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Gentleman and scholar
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 11,231
Karma: 110205705
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
The point is, it is a high priced device for early adopters. I'm not going to pay $600 for one, but people will.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
the rook, bossing Never.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 12,247
Karma: 89531599
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
|
People that believe the hype and don't research the screen used!
The headline I see on Forums Home Pocketbook Viva - full of... ![]() It's also possible that this complex screen is really expensive. Even the mono eink 6″ are very expensive panels compared to a similar size LCD. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 |
Wizard
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,007
Karma: 18401861
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sudbury, ON, Canada
Device: PRS-505, PB 902, PRS-T1, PB 623, PB 840, PB 633
|
I bought the PocketBook Colour (6") device when it came out. The display is inferior to the later Kaleido ones. However, I use it as my main fiction reading device and am happy with the colours when reading graphic novels on it. Maybe it's because I'm a glass half full guy, and/or maybe because I find the static e-ink displays to be more restful on my brain than lcd screens, but I'm just grateful to have such a device. People like me may not be in the majority, but there are probably enough of us to make such devices profitable, despite their drawbacks.
I'm fine with Quoth rubbishing the colour e-ink displays every chance he gets; he is probably saving many people grief who might have ordered a device with one and then been really unhappy with it. It's definitely not technology that is ready for everyone, but it is ready for a few of us. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Addict
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 258
Karma: 2345675
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Czech Republic
Device: Voyage, Oasis, Scribe, Libra Colour
|
What’s with the first picture - there’s something resembling a pen on the right hand side of the device, implying writing support. Misleading advertising much?
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 | |
the rook, bossing Never.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 12,247
Karma: 89531599
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
|
Quote:
The Kaleido is real eInk with various filters depending on model. The Gallery AECP is made by E Ink the company, but doesn't appear to be traditional eink panels. The Gallery types thus on the plus can do closer to PC HighColor (about 50,000) vs about 4000 for Kaleido (which is either saturated and dark, or brighter but only pastel de-saturated shades). The Gallery panels, according to E Ink Corp themselves, are very very slow, up to 1.5 seconds to "turn" a colour page. Video suggests Gallery panels flash/dither/flicker for much of that 1.5 seconds. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
Diligent dilettante
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,440
Karma: 49052774
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: in my mind
Device: Kobo Sage; Kobo Libra H2O
|
"the price of €599" <The End>
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Tags |
colour, colour ebook reader, pocketbook, pocketbook viva, viva |
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Full-text search not really full-text | secasa | Library Management | 5 | 10-01-2022 10:11 PM |
How to make pages with full bleed / full page images | mypointofview | Editor | 5 | 06-21-2016 05:45 PM |
Modify duration of pauses after dots/full stops in TTS of PocketBook Pro 912 | new_babylon | PocketBook | 7 | 10-14-2012 03:27 AM |
PocketBook 602 full page update and more | gregk | PocketBook | 5 | 11-30-2010 07:02 PM |