[GUI Plugin] Reading List

[foosion]

Originally Posted by theducks

Ondevice normally only appears when connected.
But there is a hidden? (in plain sight) connection.
Connect Share (icon): Connect to Folder: If that is in use, right click: Eject

Click on Reading List, View List. This put "marked:reading_list_default" in the search bar and only the books on device are visible, with the ondevice column (pin icon and number) visible. If I clear the search bar, this column is still visible.

If I then click Connect Share, there is no indication that Connect to Folder is in use. Right clicking on that line does nothing.

If I then restart Calibre, the ondevice column is no longer visible.

Or did I misunderstand your reply?

[theducks]

Originally Posted by foosion

If I then restart Calibre, the ondevice column is no longer visible.

Or did I misunderstand your reply?

Maybe not

I don't use Reading List. That might do something tricky (can you rightclick and clear markers?)

I did have OnDevice stuck years ago and it was because I had connected to a folder.

Do you actually HAVE a device plugged in? Simply use the Eject device on the Device Icon.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by foosion

Click on Reading List, View List. This put "marked:reading_list_default" in the search bar and only the books on device are visible, with the ondevice column (pin icon and number) visible. If I clear the search bar, this column is still visible.

If I then click Connect Share, there is no indication that Connect to Folder is in use. Right clicking on that line does nothing.

If I then restart Calibre, the ondevice column is no longer visible.

Or did I misunderstand your reply?

As I said in your other post, the pins have nothing to do with "On device". They are "marks", managed by the Mark books action. Reading List uses marks to show the contents of the lists.

[foosion]

Originally Posted by theducks

Maybe not

I don't use Reading List. That might do something tricky (can you rightclick and clear markers?)

I did have OnDevice stuck years ago and it was because I had connected to a folder.

Do you actually HAVE a device plugged in? Simply use the Eject device on the Device Icon.

It's only an issue when I don't have the device plugged in (and it's been ejected).

[foosion]

Originally Posted by chaley

As I said in your other post, the pins have nothing to do with "On device". They are "marks", managed by the Mark books action. Reading List uses marks to show the contents of the lists.

I have thought they have something to do with ondevice because they appear in a column with the lookup name "ondevice".

I had thought Reading List, when I plug in my device, checks what books are on the device and marks the ondevice column for books that are on the device.

When I click View List from Reading List, it searches for those marks (using the search bar function), so that only books with that mark are visible and it makes the ondevice column visible as the leftmost column.

When I clear the search bar, it lists all books and the ondevice column continues to be visible. When I restart Calibre, the ondevice column is no longer visible (since it's in a position to the right of visible columns).

I'd rather the column was only visible when I want it to be visible and that there was an easy way to make it not visible other than restarting Calibre.

Apologies if I'm being obtuse.

EDIT: "If you want a way to show the list of books on your device when the device isn't connected, use Reading List to set a tag or some custom column, then use that."

I'm using Reading List for that purpose. The issue is having the column not be visible when I don't want it to be visible.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by foosion

I have thought they have something to do with ondevice because they appear in a column with the lookup name "ondevice".

They appear in the line number column, not the ondevice column.

I had thought Reading List, when I plug in my device, checks what books are on the device and marks the ondevice column for books that are on the device.

Calibre populates the ondevice column, not reading list. It appears even if reading list isn't installed.

When I click View List from Reading List, it searches for those marks (using the search bar function), so that only books with that mark are visible and it makes the ondevice column visible as the leftmost column.

That means you have asked reading list to make a list of books currently on the device. The list is updated when you connect.

When you select the list, reading list sets the mark for each book in the list then searches for that mark. The ondevice column isn't used for this.

When I clear the search bar, it lists all books and the ondevice column continues to be visible.

Only if the device is still connected.

Marks will continue to show in the line number column.

When I restart Calibre, the ondevice column is no longer visible (since it's in a position to the right of visible columns).

I think you are talking about marks. They exists only for the current calibre session. Restarting calibre clears all the marks.

I'd rather the column was only visible when I want it to be visible and that there was an easy way to make it not visible other than restarting Calibre.

Apologies if I'm being obtuse.

Simply clear all marks with the Mark Books action.

What I think you are doing is using Reading List to keep a persistent record of what was on the device the last time you connected. When the device isn't connected then you are then selecting that list to see the books. Because reading list uses marks to do its job, you see the mark pins. There is no ondevice column. When you are done, clear the marks.

You can avoid using marks by having reading list update a custom column or the tags column when you connect. For example, reading list could add/remove the tag "OnDevice" when you connect the device. This will persist after you remove the device. You then use search to find books with or without the tag OnDevice, as you wish.

[foosion]

Originally Posted by chaley

What I think you are doing is using Reading List to keep a persistent record of what was on the device the last time you connected. When the device isn't connected then you are then selecting that list to see the books. Because reading list uses marks to do its job, you see the mark pins. There is no ondevice column. When you are done, clear the marks.

You can avoid using marks by having reading list update a custom column or the tags column when you connect. For example, reading list could add/remove the tag "OnDevice" when you connect the device. This will persist after you remove the device. You then use search to find books with or without the tag OnDevice, as you wish.

I am using Reading List to keep a persistent record of what was on the device the last time I connected. When I eject, the reading list marks go away (unless I click "view default list" to bring them back). What confused me was that when a look at the list of columns in "Preferences - Add your own columns" there is a column with a lookup name "ondevice" with a Column header "On device".

I have created a new column "Kobo" with a lookup name "#onkobo" that's Yes/No. Read List syncs to my Kobo as soon as it is connected. Column update options are "Update column for add or remove", column to update is the #onkobo, and value is "Y". After plugging in my Kobo, this populates the column I created with checkmarks if they are on my Kobo.

Is there a way to search for the checked entries? Otherwise I can just sort on the Kobo column to see a compact list which of my books are on the Kobo. The only thing I'm missing that I'd get with search is a count (although it seems I can click on Reading List for a count).

I think I finally have it, other than the search issue.

[theducks]

#onkobo:true

[foosion]

Looks like it's now working the way I'd like. Yay!

Many thanks. Much appreciated.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by theducks

#onkobo:true

Actually, you should use #onkobo:yes. In calibre searches, the search term "true" tests whether a column has a value. For Yes/No columns, both Yes and No are values so "true" will find both of these. An empty cell has no value, so "true" won't find these.

#onkobo:no will find books with the value "no". It won't find "yes" or empty columns.

Of course, "true" will work if the column values are either "yes" or empty, and never "no".

The search documentation in the calibre manual goes into detail about the meaning of search terms.

[foosion]

Originally Posted by chaley

Actually, you should use #onkobo:yes. In calibre searches, the search term "true" tests whether a column as a value. For Yes/No columns, both Yes and No are values so "true" will find both of these. An empty cell has no value, so "true" won't find these.

#onkobo:no will find books with the value "no". It won't find "yes" or empty columns.

Of course, "true" will work if the column values are either "yes" or empty, and never "no".

The search documentation in the calibre manual goes into detail about the meaning of search terms.

Column values are either "yes" or empty, so both true and yes work. "Yes" seems the better course, just in case there's something else in the column, even if there shouldn't be.

Thank you for your patience answering my questions.

[foosion]

When I import a new book into Calibre, it puts a red X (for no) into the column, so "yes" is needed to make things work properly.

I edited the X away, for aesthetic reasons.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by foosion

When I import a new book into Calibre, it puts a red X (for no) into the column, so "yes" is needed to make things work properly.

I edited the X away, for aesthetic reasons.

You must have set the default value of the Yes/No column to "No". Leave the default box empty.

[ownedbycats]

Is there a keyboard shotcut to move books up and down the list in the Edit List dialog?

[foosion]

Request: would it be possible to modify the plugin so that it had a down triangle at the right which would open the list of the various plugin options (see edit metadata, preferences, convert books, etc.) and to be able to customize the plugin to choose default behavior when you click on the plugin?

I'd like to make it easier to sync now.