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02-24-2017, 08:14 AM | #122 |
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Never knew that. Thanks. Wish they would bring them back. An easily user replaceable battery would be a great selling point.
However, I imagine that they have gone the way of the dinosaur. Planned obsolescence being just so much more profitable... and so readily accepted. |
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02-24-2017, 08:59 AM | #123 |
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I don't think that replaceable battery would make a huge difference. Look at the world of mobile phones: devices with replaceable batteries are now going extinct and most of people didn't even realize it.
If you need more power it's better to have a powerbank around that can be used for various devices. Standard powerbanks are also cheaper than e-ink batteries and comes in various shapes and sizes. If your battery breaks and needs replacement you just need a screwdriver and fiddle with it a little. Making batteries replaceable requires a complete redesign of hardware and less space for other components - In my opinion it's not worth it. |
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I don't want a powerbank, I want to be able to replace the battery when it goes bad, or starts to degrade (especially for phones and tablets). IMO, a replaceable battery is worth it and I would prefer one. |
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02-24-2017, 10:17 AM | #125 | |
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Also, if one has to use a powerbank to operate the device because its existing battery will no longer hold a charge, one would not be able to transfer files via the micro usb port because it would be in use. That would be very limiting indeed. And as for easily replacing non-replaceable batteries as they currently are configured on many devices, it can be done, but is a bit of a nuisance. And from what I have heard, some manufacturers are now making it more difficult to access the battery to prevent people from doing that. |
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I think that the problem is that people are SO lazy now. Ideally the would like to a have a magic button that will make the battery to pop out so they can insert a new one. If you ask them to use a screwdriver for couple minutes - that's too much! Also I think we should talk about 2 situations separately: 1. The battery is broke or need replacing - the powerbank is useless, you simply need to replace the battery. 2. You need extra power during e.g. long trip - having a powerbank instead of extra battery makes much more sense. Not everyone wants to have ultra slim devices - I personally am happy with the sizes of mobile phones now. And again, making batteries easily replaceable in most cases requires a completely different architecture of components inside and most importantly takes more space that could be used for more interesting functionalities. For me requiring easily replaceable batteries in e-readers where batteries usually last for years is a childish request. It's not worth the effort/research time that could be spent for more pressing issues like screen quality, responsiveness and stability of a device. |
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02-24-2017, 06:09 PM | #127 |
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I would appreciate a link to the article, my googling skills must be bad
My input to the discussion whether it matter or not is it matter for me. I have all my devices with user replaceable battery I am really glad about that. The Onyx Max reader is my first gadget with hidden battery but I had no choice to that matter as there is no alternative on the market. For everything else I just don't have to buy yet any monolithic unit. I have still bought this year newest phone with user replaceable battery. And yes, gadgets in my possession usually outlive their batteries and I'm still happy with them after battery replacement |
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For the tablet which I took the back off of, there was a ribbon cable which snugly extended across the entire length of the battery. It was unlike any of the ribbon cables in any of the videos I found online, and did not lift up the same way other ribbons cables seemed to. It took quite a while before I discovered how it could be removed and replaced. (Of course, now that I know what to do, it will be easy to replace again should there ever be a next time.) And some manufacturers seem to purposefully make it difficult to replace their batteries. So much so that it appears to even be difficult for them to replace it for you. Apparently, for a $99 fee, Apple will send you an entirely new ipad rather than replacing the battery in your existing one. The catch is that you will lose all data and settings which you had on your previous device. Quote:
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I'm thinking the same thing. For the conversation around this subject apart from conspiracy theory I think there are cost saving factors driving the model. 1. Time to market. Designing a compartment in the case to access the battery is some engineering effort so it costs and it takes some time. 2. Space/size. Indeed the battery compartment adds some space if even a few millimeters. 3. Cost. Standalone battery have to have some circuit inside which will protect it from accidental short-circuit when it is outside the device, also it is the responsibility of the chip to prevent blow up during charge. This circuit makes it tiny bit bigger and more expensive not to mention that such battery require certification, which costs, to be admitted for sale. The above costs can be divided by pre sale and post sale per unit. Of course the post sale costs are just peanuts and nobody will complain that his new gadget have to cost $105 instead of $100. The pre sale costs are just one time, but if you account for the risk that the device may not sell well or may not end in the market at all, they may be seen as huge. |
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02-26-2017, 09:11 AM | #131 | |
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A clearer picture of the 13.3" GoodEreader seems to be emerging. Users seem to be very happy with build quality, but frustrated by software issues and lack of basic support.
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02-26-2017, 12:33 PM | #132 |
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02-27-2017, 05:02 PM | #133 | |
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Nonetheless, the Neo reader is excellent and the hardware is just good for it. The culprit is that it takes awkwardly long time to switch between pdfs. Luckily I have found a really good piece of software: ReLaunch on F-Droid. https://f-droid.org/repository/brows...asoft.relaunch It can run as app or replace the launcher, just awesome! The build in launcher is designed for book readers. It totally does not fit the big device. If you have a handful of technical pdfs where you switch between them frequently try the above software. It even comes with full sources on GitHub so there are open possibilities |
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github. It also has integration with Dropbox, which I haven't tried yet. (Edit: I tried it. Dropbox doesn't allow integration because the app is in review...) I have a question: did you figure out how to change the sorting of files by name vs by date in the filemanager of re-launch? I find it very useful. Last edited by ghostwheel; 02-27-2017 at 08:34 PM. |
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I don't doubt that the hardware is good. That seems to be the one consistent comment so far. Hopefully, they will eventually be able to work out the software bugs which it seems are still significant:
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