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I stopped reading the Times when they started charging. I prefer to pay for the Financial Times. After I pay off my IPad, I will get the Economist.
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The Economist web site offers a fair amount of free content and up to 5 free paywalled articles a week. I've been meaning to renew my subscription but so far their open coverage is keeping me informed on the euro view of the world.
(Well that, and assorted brit and continental newspaper websites.) I've no need to let somebody filter world news for me when I can get my international coverage direct. Essentially that is the problem with the premise they were "debating". The idea that anybody can control/dictate what modern readers get to experience (via gatekeeping, "interpreting", or by mockery) is quaint when considered under the harsh light of modern connected reality. Both are forms of censorship, when you think of it. Mocking adults who read YA is as effective as telling americans they need a local news vendor to interpret the outside world for them. There's no "great firewall" blocking off direct feeds from the rest of the planet so the modern critical thinker has no problem getting unfiltered news. Freedom of the press no longer belongs solely to those that own a printing press so, of course, the entrenched players are floundering, looking for ways to control the uncontrolable. Trouble is, there's a *lot* of djinns out of the bottle. From SERENITY: Quote:
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Sure, you could have lots of reasons to dislike the New York Times. But if you dislike them for publishing an opinion piece saying that adults shouldn't read YA fiction, that's just silly. It was part of a package in which there were also SIX opinion pieces that were "pro" YA fiction.
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It was also pointed out that the ostensibly "pro-" piece was painfully condescending. |
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I read the NY Times article in question about a month ago, and I found it very offensive to suggest that adults shouldn't read YA. I read a very wide variety of literature, ranging from the classics of Greece and Rome (in the original Greek and Latin) to the Babysitters Club novels that I've kept since childhood. I resent anyone telling me what I should or should not be reading, and the elitist and snobby attitude that goes along with that sort of prescription. What anyone reads or doesn't read is their business. To generalize about the value of YA fiction, comparing it to video games (which I also enjoy) without having read the books in question is, at the very least, a sign of extremely poor taste. I haven't read an article that got me this angry in a long time. |
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I once asked my father, a man who sat on the board of a few companies, why he read what he did (mostly Travis McGee, The Destroyer novels. He said "because that's the stuff that helps me relax after a long, hard day dealing with other peoples problems". For the same reasons I read anything I want without feeling that some opinionated jack*** is the arbiter of what I should or should not enjoy.
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I would much rather read a Harry Potter book, The Hunger Games or even a Dr. Seusss book rather than some tripe by Joel Stein.
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This sounds like just the kind of insulting attitude this thread is complaining about in the article. Be more concerned with the 20% of adults worldwide who are illiterate rather than bashing "most" of the people in a country with a very high literacy rate and a huge book-reading market. BTW, I didn't read past the first page of this thread, so forgive me if it's been addressed, but in reading the quotes fromt he NYT article...c'mon...surely he's joking. Last edited by ApK; 05-02-2012 at 12:28 PM. |
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But the NYT saw it as a serious-enough topic for discussion they set it up with multiple opinion pieces, "pro-" as well as con. ![]() (shrug) It might be related to the eternal "high culture" vs genre/entertainment reading debate. |
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Great article in the NYT: Authors Taking Risks Isn’t Kid Stuff
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Sounds to me like they the NYTimes just wanted attention. Journalism these days is little more than 'sensationalism.'
Comparing seeing someone reading porn or a YA book defies all logic and class. |
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It's not journalism, it's an opinion piece.
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