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The comment thread on this very news was also locked, and some of the comments that were discussing the Indiegogo campaign were removed (I posted to it, and my comment was #21 at the time; now it's only showing 17 comments, and a locked thread).
Of course if questioned, the good folks at Goodereader.com will say that some "malcontents" (their own word for people whose money they took) were polluting the thread, and it had to be locked... |
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Well, apparently Good Ereader does have stock on hand of both the 13.3" and 6.8" devices. They have uploaded pictures to their Facebook page. They claim that they have been sending them out to customers from both their own store and their Indiegogo campaign.
https://www.facebook.com/Goodereader I haven't seen any indication of backers from their Indiegogo recently receiving any devices. Previously, people would often post comments when they got their tracking number or their product. Still amazes me that they would ship to any new customers before fulfilling all the existing orders from the Indiegogo campaign. Especially since Michael initially claimed that they had temporarily closed their Indiegogo campaign so that they could better concentrate on fulfilling their existing orders. (That was before Peter let it slip that their campaign had been shuttered. And before people discovered that they had quietly started offering their devices on Amazon and on their own website.) Quote:
Just in the last three weeks, backers with low order numbers (#207, #256, #258) have claimed that they have not received anything from the folks at Good Ereader... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/1...ader#/comments Yet Michael claims that they have sold thousands of units. And then he has the nerve to label those asking for their devices or for a refund as "malcontents". Unbelievable. Quote:
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Perhaps they could offer their long waiting backers on Indiegogo a Sony DPT-RP1 instead if they are unable or unwilling to provide them with a Good Ereader 13.3" device. On another note, here is what Michael seems to consider a "malcontent": Quote:
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i had one also...for a bit
I also was an indiegogo backer of the 13.3 inch android e reader
After the initial delays, I kept emailing the backers for a refund. They never responded to any emails about a refund. That went on for along time. I think that went on for nearly a year? Something like that. I complained to indiegogo they were not responding to any emails to ask about updates or a refund, even with the long delay. They pretty much did nothing other than tell me to email the person that refused to answer any email. Despite not wanting the device, they sent it out. The only sort of silver lining was I had used paypal to put the order in. At some point during the campaign indiegogo had stopped working with paypal. I think it is because you can actually STOP payment on paypal and contest a fradulent sale. At any rate, I got a device-like a year after it was suppose to ship--it was really not impressive-slow--buggy software, very limited. And when I would turn the device I could hear components sliding internally--like something had not been secured in the assembly. I contacted them again about a replacement...then opted to ask for a return and refund. Then I filed a complaint with paypal and they FINALLY started to answer my emails. I had to pay return shipping from the USA to Canada at about $90, but I was ok to spend $90 to get back potential $729 refund. Well, after I could see from tracking it was delivered, I kept emailing and asking Peter when I would get a refund. It took quite a few weeks as I had to deal with the hold on the charge with paypal, and lots of back and forth. Peter blamed paypal for the delay. I do not know. But they actually cleared it and I did get the refund. I complained a few times about the issues and Peter or Michael K were rather dismissive of claims and I felt at times implied my refund would be held up if I didn't delete the comments. I did...but it was another sign that something just isn't kosher. Since I was refunded, I was no longer a backer and could no longer comment on the indiegogo page. Which is just as well. The entire experience was pretty terrible. I am annoyed about the return shipping but I still got most of my money returned. And while the Good-e-Reader folks were really annoyed I put a hold with paypal, it seemed to be the only way to get them to respond to me. I truly hope they get in trouble, but indiegogo seems to have quite the infamy with failed campaigns or vaporware. I had also backed something called the thinkcharger which was...rather similar--except I only put it like $80 for the deal---and after a year delay they finally had to cut refunds--quietly. And then folded despite raising far more than the goal. I don't want to mention the meteor smart watch.... |
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Looks like they have been deleting comments from their Indiegogo page again. Earlier today I noticed the following comment which is now gone:
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Good Ereader has just released an update saying that they will shortly be releasing a firmware update taking the OS from 4.04 to 4.4. Within the post, Michael also says,
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![]() And his numbers still don't add up. In April of last year, he told Teleread that they had fulfilled 60% of their orders from the Inidegogo campaign. https://teleread.org/2017/04/27/as-g...-one-turn-out/ On January 7th of this year, he posted an update claiming to have fulfilled 3/4 of all Indiegogo orders (that would be 75%), shipping "hundreds out every quarter!" https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/1...r#/updates/all More recently, he has claimed that thousands of the devices have been sold. https://goodereader.com/blog/electro...-day-promotion Math certainly doesn't seem to be his forte, nor does telling the truth. ![]() |
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[QUOTE=Question Mark;3661327]Good Ereader has just released an update saying that they will shortly be releasing a firmware update taking the OS from 4.04 to 4.4. Within the post, Michael also says,
I did check my messages--I thought the device was suppose to get an update to Android 5.0, from 4.04. I don't think I've ever heard of going to 4.4. I checked my emails and I can't find that...but I'm pretty sure it was android 5.0. And open source.... |
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And no, I haven't received anything. And have essentially given up all hope of it. Backing the campaign was not my best decision; now I'm happy with my other large screen readers, which I use regularly (though I would probably have bought one from Sony if it had been available more easily and had more open software, since I'm mostly interested in reading PDF). |
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Please keep us informed if you ever receive a device or a refund. I hope for you that you do. However, the fact that Peter has tried to distance himself from the campaign suggests that something is not on the level. I wonder what Michael is playing at with his most recent update where he thanks people for their "kind words" on the comments page which he finds so "inspiring". He seems to be deliberately thumbing his nose at his long suffering backers. |
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Good Ereader is currently offering a sale on their 13.3" device over on their website.
https://goodereader.com/blog/product...-13-3-e-reader They are currently offering the 13.3" device for $599. Their backers from their shuttered Indiegogo campaign page had to shell out $699 and it seems that many are still waiting to receive either a device or a refund. Some have apparently been waiting for more than two years. I wonder how many takers they will get for this sale on their seriously dated device... |
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This is just incredible.
I wonder what the real plan is here - do they actually intend to deliver these "on sale" devices, or are they just trying to steal more money (even though they're getting less per "customer")? |
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However, if someone were naive enough to pay by bank draft or money order, it might turn out differently. Despite the deep discount, it is still a hefty price to pay for its limited specs. Can't see them selling very many of them given the alternative devices now on the market. And so, unable to sell them at a reduced price, Michael may get around to fulfilling his obligations to the backers of the Indiegogo campaign. Apparently, another batch of devices will be arriving within the next few weeks, and Michael is claiming that they will actually have too many of them. Quote:
I also wonder how many of the backers from the Indiegogo campaign are aware that Michael is offering the devices at such a reduced rate while they continue to wait for theirs. I don't imagine that Michael will be offering to refund them any of their money if he does indeed eventually deliver on the perks. |
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