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Late to this, but so sorry you had to abide by an unjust law, Alex. I understand there was no other option, and you've been forethright about the whole thing, for which I applaud you.
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03-12-2009, 05:02 PM | #107 |
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Well guys, I don't know about you but I am not surprised. I wish I was mind you. But I am really not. This is just another company in a ling line of companies that do this sort of thing and you know who I blame for it?
US! You and me. We allow it to happen. The Itunes store was DRM for ever and did that stop people from buying Ipods? No. Best selling MP3 EVER! Same thing will happen here. People will buy up the Kindle cuz it from Amazon and ohhhh ahhhh isn't it nifty! I for one will never buy a Kindle now. But many many many others will. The only way to correct this sort of thing is to vote with your pocket book and the bottom line is no one cares. They will buy anyway. The ironic thing about it all is that when I boycott a store or manufacturer for some ridiculous practice, people look at me funny! Ah well.... just more of the same really. Eric |
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03-12-2009, 05:14 PM | #109 |
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03-12-2009, 05:15 PM | #110 |
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First, I'd like to thank Alex for the way he and the other moderators help make MR what it is - sometimes in spite of (some of) ourselves.
Secondly I probably should have remembered that I didn't want Big (amazon) Brother looking over my shoulder and that was why I didn't buy a Kindle 1 when they first came out (old timer's disease, I guess). Thirdly, I just put tape over my Kindle's Wispernet switch. I don't think they can monitor or change anything as long as it is off. I'm not personally enough of a programmer to do it but I do have it on very good authority that SW can be written that will disable Whispernet regardless of that switch's setting. Also that SW can be written that will allow one to copy the current Kindle SW load for the probable future event that Amazon "upgrades" your Kindle to a more crippled version of their SW. Fourthly, maybe the OpenInkPot guys might like both help and a donation of a Kindle to be able to replace the Amazon firmware with OI. And lastly, IMHO amazon is guilty of Digital McCArthyism. Last edited by slayda; 03-12-2009 at 05:19 PM. |
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03-12-2009, 05:21 PM | #111 | |
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Selling the program may be illegal, running the program may or may not (again, you get into exceptions, country of sale/possession issues, etc), but publishing the program's text (and the "artistic expression" of directions on how to use it) are protected (just like directions on a recipe). Amazon probably didn't care much until the ipod app took off - it's become a worldwide access point to their digital catalog. Although there are legitimate uses of the kindlepid program (the ability to rent library ebooks, which actually pay the authors more than print copies), if the Kindle were the hardware to have and only Amazon sold DRM content worked on it, it might actually put pressure on other sources to remove DRM (since non-drm content works just fine and was a selling point/feature of the K and K2). In actuality, of course, the PID is being used by the unscrupulous to buy a single amazon version of a file and then sell off illegal copies (of course, they can still do this will all other mobi versions, so the drop in profit for them would be negligible, were this a real argument -- all other versions of mobi pretty much have to have open PID's that the end-user can type in to the store/library system). Stopping you from knowing the PID also doesn't block any non-US sales (where Amazon is more likely to be violating author rights contracts on a massive scale, but only due to lies of geographic location entered by their customers). The main problem is actually at Amazon's end - despite owning mobipocket, they are separate companies and have licenses/contracts between them. Those are no doubt more of an issue - why would anyone in their right mind buy from other mobi vendors if you could get the same book from Amazon for any mobi licensed platform. It breaks the exclusivity (and high prices) of non-kindle mobi stores/hardware. Then again, some idiots think people still want "books as apps" over on apple, with another one released recently in the near $30 range (no, I don't remember the exact title, but suspect it's $10 to $15 in the amazon store, can be read on all your kindle devices, not just the iphone and doesn't count towards your app limit). |
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What I really don't get is why they would do this? Why get a whole community, one that has an astounding reputation and is pushing the adoption of digital reading more than anyone else, up in arms? You'd think by now someone at Amazon had some business sense? Someone there would have held back on this. The bad faith they've created will spread, mark my words, wouldn't surprise me if in the next few days we're going to see a lot of articles and terrible press on this move. Serves them right.
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03-12-2009, 05:34 PM | #113 |
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I hope your left hand gets better soon. I know it's annoying to be in pain and not be able to do what you want to do.
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03-12-2009, 05:47 PM | #114 |
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The irony is that kindlepid.py has been around ever since Kindle 1 got launched (end of 2007, early 2008?) It makes me wonder why Amazon has suddenly decided to invoke DMCA against this tool.
In all fairness, I don't think preventing us to use the PID code for .mobi e-book purchases elsewhere is Amazon's main objective. Or why wait until today? So... the Kindle iPhone app, which was recently released, comes into mind... |
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Hmmm, if the Kindle for iPhone app facilitates DRM removal in this fashion ... wouldn't that mean that it's equally as "infringing" as kindlePID.py is?
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well i'm confused. didn't the iphone app come from amazon ?? or at the least, didn't they sanction it ?? you would think they would have had to, particularly in light of the rumors that they squashed a mobipocket iphone reader app... (or am i mistaken about that ?) now why would amazon want to launch an iphone app if it infringed upon anything ?
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